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zkLY8xTQ OP wrote
Reply to comment by kano in Are you against all hierarchy or just against you being ruled over? by zkLY8xTQ
What do you mean concerns are no reason to fight?
Innocent until proven guilty, right?
The existence of any state is a threat
This is correct. My initial question though wasn’t if you’d respect the state, it was if you’d respect the decision of the individual to rather be part of it than not [and if you’d tolerate the state as in not trying to deconstruct it].
My bad if this didn’t come across clearly enough, “respect” was bad wording in my initial question.
But, according to the answers in this thread, there can’t be a single person in our 8 billion people who actually likes being part of a state.
I like your answer, because it’s pointing out the painful truth that anarchy is often displayed as something it is not, or isn’t even a topic discussed.
But again I can’t wrap my head around how you’re telling me theres not a single person who willfully is part of a state while also knowing the alternatives. And in fact there doesn’t have to be one. My question was based upon a assumption anyways.
Also I don’t dislike your opinion at all, it’s just the explanation and reasoning that seems off to me.
It may seem odd to you, but /u/stagn s answer is one of the more appealing ones in here, because, as of now, to me it seems to not be based on anything. And imo a opinion needs no foundation to be highly respectable. It’s when the reasoning is questionable that it’s validity starts to fade.
zkLY8xTQ OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by lentils in Are you against all hierarchy or just against you being ruled over? by zkLY8xTQ
sry but not even a little similarity
Edit: that anarchists don’t rule appears to be self evident, huh?
zkLY8xTQ OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by kano in Are you against all hierarchy or just against you being ruled over? by zkLY8xTQ
So someone living in a stateless society would definitely be right to be concerned about a state existing anywhere near them.
Hell yeah I’d be worried! Power corrupts, it’s a matter of time. But concerns are no reason to fight.
I get it, I can’t argue you’re not forced. If one can not leave they are in on way or another forced, even if the don’t have the desire to leave. I’d say theres still a difference between being forced and a lack of options, but it’s very slim, I admit
But again how do you explain to me that many people do not have the desire to leave?
Edit:
So I hope it's clear I'm against all authority and hierarchy, and that the 2 assumptions in your question are bad assumptions
Thanks for sharing your opinion(s) 🫶🏼
zkLY8xTQ OP wrote
Reply to comment by moonlune in Are you against all hierarchy or just against you being ruled over? by zkLY8xTQ
yes that’s right, I did never in my life sign up for citizenship, in that sense, it’s not voluntary. and you’re also right, some states force you to have a citizenship - you in fact can not leave.
Yet people decide to stay in such systems with no desire to leave. Many desire change, for sure. If I were to go ask my neighbors if they’d prefer anarchy, I’d get some weird looks and many No s.
What you’re writing seems to me a rather biased opinion instead of a neutral view.
How can I force freedom on others. Forcing freedom. Seems off to me.
zkLY8xTQ OP wrote
Reply to comment by ziq in Are you against all hierarchy or just against you being ruled over? by zkLY8xTQ
all authority affects everyone
How? Why am I supposed to care? It’s none of my business, is it?! As long as they don’t bother me, why should I fight a system if I’m not even sure the people of the system want me to be against it?
And isn’t this contrary to the idea of absolute freedom we always talk about. Let the others have the freedom of being ruled, if they want to. It’s easy to say all these hierarchies are unjust, I agree. But you can’t deny that some people actually prefer it that way. I can’t just say everyone shares my opinion and if they don’t they’re simply brainwashed / opressed, it’s a fact that some people want a government.
Educate me :)
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Reply to FREE TALK EXTRAVAGANZA!!!! by tuesday
I want to pick up coding again, but I don’t know what I should do. Most project recommendations online seem boring af to me because they lack any real world use case. Like really I’m talking 99.99%.
zkLY8xTQ wrote (edited )
Reply to Any favorite drinking songs? by asterism
Metal / Rock
Set Fire To The Rain Vs In The End Mashup Remix (Adele - Linkin Park)
POWERWOLF - We Drink Your Blood
POWERWOLF - Demons Are A Girl's Best Friend
Eskimo Callboy - Best Day (without Sido)
Beast In Black - Blind and Frozen
EDM
Nelly Furtado - All Good Things Come To An End (DJ Traytex Trance Edit)
Meiko - Leave The Lights On (Twin Remix)
Vnce Dolanbay - Berlin Nights (his other track, 1:01 AM, is pretty cool as well)
Goblins from Mars - Turf War 2.0
Sevenn - Colors Of The Rainbow (DoubKore Remix)
other Genres (feel free to tell me where to put them)
Mondays feat. Hanna Stone - Pandemonium (Tribute Version)
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to comment by Fool in One of these days I plan to make a guitar wiki. What info would you like to see in it? by asterism
tuning first string feels like dealing with explosives anyways…
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to comment by NOISEBOB in What's the most ridiculous thing you've ever spent money on? by bergra
A few, yes but mostly from animals which weren’t shy. Turns out it’s quite hard to track a deer down and sneak up to it. Should’ve put up a tent and just wait it out. But no L there, I always took home nice experiences and got to connect with nature.
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to comment by lentils in What's the most ridiculous thing you've ever spent money on? by bergra
well yeah obviously, you’re right :D
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Apple devices… expensive af for no reason
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I used to own a camera and I thought photographing some wildlife would be fun, so I bought a lens for 1600 bucks (used). Didn’t use it that much and ended up selling it for 1200 again after a few years. Was nice trying something new though.
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to What is the most unusual talent you have and how did you find out you were good at it? by bergra
Haha I can be quite good at arguing if that counts ^^ Though, even for me it’s hard to argue with fools.
zkLY8xTQ wrote (edited )
Reply to by ManyGodsNoMasters
This is right. No need to argue whether you want to call a family a hierarchy or not, the main point is that mutual respect in a family, specifically a parent child relationship, is a must. And I think it’s hard to argue against that.
Edit: I see though the point of those who may say that no hierarchy can be justified. From that perspective the wording is a bit misleading.
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Reply to Microsoft is giving robots AI by ziq
apocalypse now…
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to comment by Tequila_Wolf in Why you should be wary of artificial intelligence by throwaway
government agencies probably have the most capable AIs. And they actively use it for mass surveillance, I don’t think much has changed in the US since Snowden made the broad public aware, do you? ^^
warfare is a whole other story, considering what automated weaponry they have and considering what’s made public is usually already “the old stuff”.
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to California bill would eventually ban all tobacco sales for anyone born after Jan. 1, 2007 by Joshuafall
I’m sure people will come up with plenty of other shit they can smoke instead /hj
zkLY8xTQ wrote (edited )
the products big pharma comes up with are actually great many times, provided you actually need them. The main problem is that many doctors and pharma firms are trying to sell medicine to people who don’t need it. e.g. pills against headache, most of the time there is a reason you have an aching head and you’d be better off just fixing the cause (sleep, hydration, stress, nutrition…)
Also I’m sick of THC being displayed as medicine. It’s a damn drug, which, apparently, can be medicine in some cases. The lines between drug and medicine may be blurry, but I’ve heard far too many people say “it’s no drug, it’s medicine”… bs (just my 2 cents because of the pic, not putting any words in your mouth you didn’t specifically state)
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Reply to comment by Majrelende in What are your predictions for 2023? by fortmis
lol what mistakes were made?
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Reply to comment by zkLY8xTQ in Voting or not voting is absolutely the most ridiculous thing to worry about. by Majrelende
some time later... my views have changed a lot about voting. Leaving my initial comment though, for educational purposes.
zkLY8xTQ wrote (edited )
TLTR properly but just after your first paragraph I have to disagree, voting is not only about bringing the right people to power / the current ones away - it’s also about preventing the wrong ones to gain power. There are even parties made up of comedians who just make fun of politics, it’s better to vote for them instead of not voting at all. Simple reasoning: it gives the (far)right parties less votes (in %). Besides that the anarchist movement is small, but a lot lot lot of people are orientated to the left and are in favor of more freedom. So, let’s unite and not insist on our / your optimal world order, rather make it the best currently possible ;)
zkLY8xTQ wrote
Reply to What's your favorite fruit? by tprk
berries of any kind are great