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Reply to comment by ziq in i think it's also time for me to leave reddit: a conspiracy theory on a reddit tankie incursion by zoom_zip
https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/kuu26s/i_think_this_person_may_be_having_a_breakdown/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/kh8f3c/mods_of_green_and_pleasant_being_tankies/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/lps9j3/renough_vaush_spam_is_trying_to_get_rtankiejerk/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/lrokw2/mask_off/
https://twitter.com/tronaldodumpo/status/1368977015341252615
ziq OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted24301 in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
Community has never helped me, just shame, exploitation, abuse and alienation. I can only write what I know.
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2 more reddit comments from a panleft sub that removed the essay.
Yeah this seems like good-faith discussion worth engaging with. And the rest is pretty much in that tone. Thanks, no thanks.
Why is it that every real-life anarchist I meet is a wonderful person that wants to work with me/us but every anarchist on the internet is just this condescending ball of insults? You wanna do it alone, fine, there's the door. Last time I looked, this was "leftist discussions" not "angry screeds while I walk away from you".
And
This is pretty cringe ngl
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Reply to comment by rot in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
Part of the first chapter is old, I added like 7000 words to it.
https://raddle.me/f/Anarchism/117740/the-disturbing-trend-of-anarcho-tankies-we-ve-been-seeing
ziq OP wrote
Reply to comment by rot in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
They're not a tankie, it was an ancom on r/@ the other day.
ziq OP wrote
Reply to comment by zoom_zip in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
A label I don't even have, mind you.
ziq wrote
Reply to comment by Quicksilver in Tankie says "sexual revolution" is bourgeois and counterrevolutionary by metocin
Yes. Everything unholy and individualistic is.
ziq OP wrote
Reply to comment by ziq in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
The anarchy I talk about isn't an ideology like Marxism, it's a way of life that's existed for millennia. They live anarchistically and they're very open about it, refusing all authority that the state or anyone else tries to place on them. Holding no gods and no masters. They don't need you to speak for them and they couldn't care less about me or the anthropologist I quoted describing their anarchistic culture in an essay.
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You point out some bad colonialist things Marx said & did but you realize that Marx in his later years also become interested in non-capitalist social formations & studied indigenous peoples like the Iroquois right??
Also while the Hadza are a communal people they would not call themselves anarchists, it's not right to appropriate or label them as "anarchistic" (or marxist) for political brownie points. The Hadza are neither anarchists or marxists
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Reply to comment by ziq in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
This essay should give you more context about my critique of community:
You don't have to agree with me about the flaws of community, anarchy is a rainbow with more flavors than I can keep track of. I think the most sustainable mutual aid would arise in a union of egoists though, because everyone is contributing because it serves their interest to contribute, rather than out of some misplaced sense of duty, which will inevitably create disappointment, burn-out and alienation when certain people end up giving a lot more than others and getting nothing back. Labor division, which is a feature of community, always creates power imbalances.
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r/AnarchismZ comment:
Well, shit. I don't know what actually qualifies as anarchist. It sounds like the crusties I used to hop trains with are the only genuine anarchists I've ever met. If I'm to take this essay seriously, and I really must (I'm selfishly grateful to read a real takedown of online ML authoritarian apologia), then i have to stop identifying as anarchist. I share the anarchist's distrust of rulers and governments and forces, but dammit, I'm still a communalist. I still want to live in a community. I don't identify with Stirner. I won't poison the creek with runoff from my science experiments because I care about the effects downstream. I am fascinated by the Hadza people you wrote about, but I'm not a primitivist. I don't know how I'd fare in the wild, but I'm not trying either. I like sleeping indoors. Please educate me if I'm misunderstanding, but the essay wasn't exactly subtle. If any community at all is authoritarian, then I have to stop calling myself an anarchist, and have to part ways with anarchism. "Mutual Aid" has the word mutual in it, right? Again, if I'm being obtuse, well then I'm obtuse. But believe me when I write that this comment is in the spirit of wishing to learn from others. I am not attacking your ideas.
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Reply to comment by thekraken in Are Anarcho-Communism and Civilization ideas Ableist? by ziq
If you're really concerned about equality, increasing our dependence on technology is going to do the opposite of make us equal. Expertise creates inequality and the more advanced the technology, the more advanced the expertise and thus the bigger gap there is between experts and non experts.
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Reply to comment by !deleted32344 in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
I wonder if the 2 people who downvoted this post object to the anti left-unity part or the "unironic anprim" part.
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Reply to comment by !deleted32344 in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
r/tankiejerk
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Reply to What grains do you most eat? by existential1
I'm back to just eating fruit and salad but the only grains I was eating were quinoa and wheat noodles.
ziq wrote
Reply to comment by CoryImmediatism in Nature as Spectacle. The Image of Wilderness vs. Wildness, by Feral Faun on Immediatism by CoryImmediatism
Yeah there are a lot of great add ons. This site was originally just a bunch of wordpress plugins piled on top of each other.
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Reply to comment by ziq in Eradicate Left Unity: Make Bands, Not Communities. Anarchy, Not Leftism (by ziq) by ziq
yeah I like most of the essay but being an unironic anprim is pretty cringe.
(orrr maybe we should return to monke?? 🤔🤔🤔)
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Reddit comments.
Damn, that was interesting.
I guess the only thing that I felt was a little offputting were the various parts of the essay which had some implicit anprim elements, and well... let’s just say that’s cringe.
EDIT: oh actually, reading his other stuff reveals he actually is an anprim. Damn what a shame.
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Reply to by !deleted8445
Knuckles is anprim for sure.
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Reply to Who removed all the /f/illegalism pinned posts? by celebratedrecluse
idk but you're a mod so you can pin whatever you want