videl

videl wrote (edited )

you havent addressed how white people starting shit that puts black people in danger regardless of whether or not they agree with what the white people are doing isn't disrespectful white bullshit that is totally typical of whiteness. just no regard for people of other races. you haven't addressed this white privilege which is the core of the problem.
I appreciate your explanation on the difference between initiation and leading and I mostly agree but what I am describing is a white person comes into an action and fundamentally changes it for everyone via property destruction & the response that it brings from the white supremacist cops: this is the type of thing I'm talking about whatever you wanna call it.
if you're white and you start shit you better be ready to protect black people by any means necessary

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videl wrote (edited )

How is initiating something not taking lead?

I don't have a problem with white people going somewhere and joining in on property destruction thats already commenced. That's solidarity.
But for example if white people show up to a currently peaceful BLM March and initiate (are the first ones to start shit) is just shitty disrespectful white bullshit that we're all tired of. And it really doesnt matter if you think a peaceful protest is a waste of time it's just not your risk to take.

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videl wrote (edited )

Which black people?

In the context of my comment I meant OP. But in general, whatever black people are at whatever action in question.
I'm simply saying this: it's shitty for white people to take lead and initiate property destruction / fights w cops during protest because the police aren't going to be retaliating against white people. it's just not white peoples risk to take. Especially during a protest that's clearly about black people

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videl wrote (edited )

A fight for equality includes all races, white and black included.

sure and in a white supremacist world that means one of the best things whites can do is support nonwhites' during protests. which also means not initiating property destruction / fights w cops because the police aren't going to be retaliating against white people. it's just not white peoples risk to take. Especially during a protest thats clearly about black people

But if shit is already going down then fuck it smash shit.

But also this whole outside agitator thing is definitely overblown like u/celebratedrecluse said.

also

I'm white

I don't see why I'm less qualified than a black person to call out racism, and protest and fight against it.

😑

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