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veuzi wrote (edited )

If you're gonna take anything away from it then maybe try to take this. There isn't a monolith of artists. There will always be multiple ways to approach art, whether that is making it or consuming it. You are forced to deal with the complications of capitalist society and technology and civilization whatever you do. And to get to the position of being able to make a living off your art with the full passion put into it is for many, a privilege obtainable in a lot of parts from luck and social connections. Even getting an education in an art isn't a guarantee that you will be able to make a living from it. Capitalism is brutal, especially towards the arts.

So if you are not discouraged to make art to begin with considering all the pre-existing complications with AI out of the picture, why should AI discourage you further? And like I do want there to be a positive message out of this. That is make art in spite of the situation. Make the art you want to make, really. Survive and get money however you must.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

The comment you are replying to was written shortly after October 7. This whole thread really is a result of those early parts of This Current War, which did start on October 7.

Now, I prefer to just leave these past conversations that went nowehere in the past, but since you're here: Yes, all of the other shit Israel has done to Palestinians for nearly a century matters, it matters to why this happened in the first place too. The "conflict" is much more than This Current War. So I don't need some snippy hindsight showing up in my replies 5 months later. I know this.

But still, I'm never going to accept what Hamas did on October 7 as even remotely justified or imply that Israelis had it coming, even being aware of the history behind why it happened. I'm also not going to dwell on it now 5 months later and do free propaganda for the Zionists. Israel has already surpassed that indiscriminate death toll by several thousand orders of magnitude and This Current War is by all practical means a genocide.

No apologism from me here, everything about this sucks and I hope it ends.

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veuzi wrote

I do feel for people who actually do art for a living that could get practically replaced by generative AI down the line. That is, to an extent, righteous fear.

But as someone who has never and will probably never make any significant amount of money from their art to begin with (the art medium being specifically music, most of which is unmarketable to the trends of the music industry), and also do not even desire to monetize it and simply want to create for the joy of it: I'm finding it real hard to feel threatened by these recent developments. Like to me it doesn't matter where I get my money from. I'll just work a shitty job like I'm currently doing for the money I need, live in my parent's basement to save costs overall and create in my free time like I want to do to begin with. The machine can take your job but it can't take your real, human passion. And I think this human passion will remain in at least some demand, mass-produced AI slop or not.

But I dunno, I'm happy to get 40 plays on my SoundCloud uploads even after doing this shit for 20 years. I even use a CC license just because I hate copyright that much. I enable downloads on almost everything. And yeah, I wouldn't even care if my music ended up getting crawled and put into a dataset either. Go ahead and generate 100 janky copies of a half-finished song I made in an afternoon, I'd be honored.

But again, that's just me. With not much skin in the game to begin with, not much can threaten my already pretty low position in this lousy society.

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veuzi wrote

Reply to free CHAT SUNDAY by kano

I'm able to buy imported (read: smuggled) factory-made cigs from a Polish co-worker for cheap-ish, so I'm smoking that now. Other times I might get rolling tobacco and papers.

So the answer is both. But when I have rolling tobacco I don't usually bother with filters.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

Idgaf I steal from the grocery store and my job too.

You are not responsible for capitalism being what it is, so you're not obligated to pay for shit: Websites not getting money from me is a whole lot of not my problem.

On my computer, I decide what content I want to see. Simple as.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

Reply to comment by rarWars in Subterranean homesick anarchist by OneSock

The difference between +1 and +0 is so insignificant that it doesn't matter what you as an individual do unless your only goal is to feel better about yourself. Utilitarianism is a philosophical thought experiment, it doesn't apply to the real world.

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veuzi wrote

Reply to comment by Vrik_IV in Subterranean homesick anarchist by OneSock

Does every shady government project have to be labelled as "Project (year)"?

Does every shady government project even need a fucking thriller movie name?

Who fucking comes up with this stuff? Don't even @ me with your brainworms.

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veuzi wrote

Reply to comment by subrosa in FREE CHAT FRIDAY by kano

My problem with Chess is that seemingly no matter what strange 4D opening move I do, how far I try to see ahead with strategy, how perfectly I set up a completely boxed in castling defence: I always end up losing my Queen, getting backed up into a corner and Mate'd in less than 30 turns.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

Reply to comment by rarWars in Subterranean homesick anarchist by OneSock

Any singular vote is statistically insignificant. Any "short-term impact" on US politics is completely insignificant: The US is no better today than it was in 2008 or 2016 or even 2020. Under Biden, cops are still killing people, prisons are still institutions of modern slavery, people trying to escape from cartels and corruption in South America are still being treated as less than human. Furthermore, the US is still providing political cover for genocidal states and civil rights have seen practically zero improvement on a whole. And I can remember it was much the same in the Obama years. People older than me would say it was much the same in the Clinton years too. The Democratic party is hardly any different in practice than the Republican party. The only significant marker between the two is in rhetoric. If you consider what US did on the world stage, and not just domestically, then Trump wasn't even worse than Bush Jr. There's nothing unique about Trump apart from his tendency to run his mouth without thinking. Trump's politics are bog-standardly American.

But even if you got the perfect response for all of those points, how about this: The trolley problem is fake. The social contract is fake. Even morality can be discarded. Fate brought you to the world in the time and place you are in. Society is external to you, nationality is imposed on you. You do not owe it to anyone or anything to vote, just as you don't owe it to work, pay taxes, follow the law, etc.

By not voting, what you are accomplishing is exactly nothing and nothing more. By voting, all you are accomplishing a +1 to the count of millions. You are responsible for what you do, but there is nothing to prove that you are responsible for what you don't do as if some cosmic force of collective morality compels you to do it.

It's telling enough that the most usual Vote Blue No Matter Who mantra says "not voting is a vote for Trump" without even mentioning Biden. If not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump, then is not voting for Trump a vote for Biden? Is it assumed by default that if you voted, you would vote for Biden?

Finally, "Project 2025" I gotta say sounds like some paranoid conspiracy theory, but you're welcome to elaborate and prove me wrong.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

How so?

How could history be anything else than a narrative with a limited scope? No-one can claim to know all or how to characterize all of history, because no-one can know all of history. It's impossible. Even if you limit your historical inquiries to a specific timeframe in a specific place, you will still miss out on events that were never recorded, and the events you are able to find recorded you will still have to arrange into a narrative, which means making some events more important than others, and maybe even entirely ignoring certain events. History by its nature is limited, biased, and ultimately tells a story that has to be told with all the subjectivities and narrative tricks of the imperfect human.

Which makes a large-encompassing metanarrative like historical materialism, not really a big deal, no great revelation from past knowledge. Looking at historical materialism without the smokescreens of Marxist ideology making it out to be something bigger than it is leaves me with the impression that basically, the postmodernists were right.

Calling dialectical materialism rebranded Hegel is extremely ignorant

Marx repackaged it from Hegel and Stalin more noisily repackaged it from Marx. That's just my snide remarks, and in my case, the difference between Hegel's idealism and Marx' materialism doesn't matter. Because in all stated cases dialectics is made out to be something greater than itself, a "science". And the way it is made out to be a "science", especially by Stalin et al, practically makes it religious rather than scientific. So my conclusion is really just that I don't see a reason to seriously give a fuck about something so inconsequential for my own thought, and so clouded by Great Man theory as Hegelian and Marxian dialectics.

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veuzi wrote

US liberals say all the time that a lack of a vote means a vote for Trump. "Harm reduction", in the context of US politics, is practically a utilitarian imposition of morality. The reality is that you don't owe your participation to society just because you exist, on the same level, you don't owe Democrats your vote because you exist in the US and you hate Trump and the Republicans.

In reality, it's like this: Basically, society is fucked, you exist by random chance, elections are just a proof of legitimacy of authority anywhere whether it's the US or somewhere else. You don't owe a vote to Biden or the democrats no matter how much you hate Trump. Not voting does not equal to a vote for the "opposing party" simply because it is not a vote for anything. There is no "tacit support" for the status quo or any semblance of social contract. Democracy is something that is imposed on you like authority. Democracy is authoritarian. If you live in the US, you practically live in a dictatorship. Voting doesn't matter.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

That doesn't make it less confusing. Because not hunting and not wearing leathers and furs makes perfect sense. What I'm not seeing is how that logic applies to a more non-standard use of an animal product. Why not throw an egg? Do vegans have to be averse to the action of even touching an egg?

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veuzi wrote (edited )

I really don't see what would be the problem with throwing eggs when you're not even going to eat them. It's not like you have to pay for the eggs either, you can steal them. But that's just my carnist confusion.

The real answer is any kind of fruit with soft, watery tissue. Like plums, peaches, apricots, tomatoes. Bonus points if you let them rot a little bit first.

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veuzi wrote (edited )

Historical materialism is a metanarrative that can be readily discarded. It does not matter if all of history can be boiled down to class struggle because even then, any historical narrative will be inherently limited by the fact that it is a narrative cooked up by humans, a construct of human thought which can only fit pieces of history. There is no historical narrative that can account for all of history, all of time, all human events. And even if you were to agree with the premise of the narrative, it really is not some great revelation that societies of the past had class systems and struggles were fought across such class lines.

Dialectical materialism is just a repackaging of Hegel, and once again, it is not some great revelation that you could identify contradictions and opposing forces in society. But I guess Stalin needed to put something down in his bible, something to prove that he at least read a little bit of Marx, that he had academic clout to justify his political clout. And I guess Marxist-Leninists of today are much the same in that regard.

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veuzi wrote

Definitely the giant house spiders that inhabit my basement on a seasonal basis. Most of them stay out of the way and out of sight, but last fall I had one female who built her web and egg sac right outside the basement window which is set into the ground, so for a little while it effectively became a terrarium. Snails and woodlouse would get washed down in there every time it rained, and I would be able to see the spider leaving her funnel web to go hunting, or other times the bugs landed right in her web. I was able to see the egg sac pop and saw some of the spiderlings come out, though I expect most of them didn't survive but I made sure to keep the window cracked at that time so maybe a few of them could get in. The mother-spider herself died a few weeks later.

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veuzi wrote

Every country wastes taxpayers' money on everything from economic subsidies to police and military expenses. Frankly, all money and resources spent by a state is a waste, even the welfare programs. Politics is all about how to most efficiently waste money on maintaining the current government's interests and upholding the smokescreen of a social contract.

So I don't give a fuck that "my" country donates and sells weapons and ammunition to Ukraine, it has already been selling the same shit to countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia for decades. Ukraine might as well be a drop in an endless bucket.

And I also don't give a fuck about "my" country in general. It should cease to exist, like every country.

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veuzi wrote

I was expecting a full-ass essay from that title but all I got was a paragraph.

But anyway, I agree. I was surprised enough to find out that embedding images was already a somewhat hidden away and convoluted but fully working feature, so there's not really much to ask for. Fast, minimal and no bullshit websites ftw

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veuzi wrote

When I'm alone I'm in my right element. No-one to stress me out, no-one to expect me to manage their stress. I don't think I know what the feeling of being lonely even is, because I like and need to be alone large parts of the time.

Day to day, I'll still talk to my parents (who I live with), colleagues at work, the few friends I have and random people at the local bar who are willing to talk to me. So I guess that's what I do when I get lonely.

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