tasmaniansyrup

tasmaniansyrup wrote

Order item, wait 48 hours after you receive it, claim it did not arrive. Tell them you already bought a replacement item & need a cash refund. If they say you need to file a police report, go ahead & do it--this won't result in you being caught, it's just a hurdle they put up so fewer people will get refunds.

If the delivery person took a photo to prove delivery, this still would not prove you're lying--it could just indicate the package was stolen from the porch. (Make sure you don't have a Ring camera or something recording you taking the package inside.) It's up to the company to decide whether to refund for an item that was delivered but stolen.

I'm not aware of any guides, but I'm not sure anyone really knows the specifics of how often you can get away with this etc. I've gotten refunds of orders around $300, I think others have said 400-500 may be the upper limit before they require signature to deliver.

Prime accounts & established accounts with many successful orders are more likely to get refunds. If you do this too often Amazon can flag your account & require signature for any delivery.

Would love to see comments from people who have done the DNA scam successfully with other companies!

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tasmaniansyrup OP wrote

This mission was a bit of a fail...went to Walmart, grabbed the one router I could find with loose spider wrap, and got it home to find that none of the firmware out there is compatible with it. I also also needed a router/modem, but acquired only a router (no, i'm not very good with computers). I ordered an S3 key, so when it arrives I can go back & get a more carefully selected choice of equipment.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

Yes, I'll agree to that, although it depends on the car & on if you know anything else about their lifestyle. There are downwardly mobile people who acquired a nice-ish car at some point, & don't sell it because you need a nice car to drive Uber. In rare cases, high-earning people may also be members of the artisan class, who earn money without playing the role of manager to a lower level of workers.

Anyway, you're unlikely to do any direct harm to the working class by going to the rich neighborhood & taking cash from some McMansion guy's Lexus SUV, so have at it.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

People who are comparatively wealthy and own a nice car can still be workers (work for a boss, own personal property for their own use but not significant capital/investment property). Dividing up the working class into poor vs. privileged is potentially a tool of capitalists to efface the difference between some guy who can buy a lexus & the true elite who can buy their own congressman.

That said, I'm not gonna concern troll on here about carhopping....if someone needs money & can find some in an unlocked Rolls Royce then have at it.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

It has been the same as pre-covid IME. Pretty easy & the employees don't pay much attention to you. Only difference is the testers are all taped over so there is less pretext to hang around trying stuff out (and maybe fewer shoppers since it's not quite as fun). I've walked out of there with pricey hair tools as well as other stuff, but as always be cautious since your store may have security closely watching cameras.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

Reply to by !deleted9614

If you make an attempt to find the owner (even if it's pretty perfunctory) I doubt there's any way you could get into trouble -- at worst if they track you down you can give it back & show that you tried for X amount of time to find the owner. Keeping found items isn't a crime. I would however advise against paying $20 for a charger -- you might be able to find one at a store for free!

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tasmaniansyrup OP wrote

Update: I had success obtaining a larger item by just reversing direction and carrying my stuff through the showroom & out the front door. No one was checking receipts or watching the door, & they don't seem to be observant for people who go through the store in the wrong direction. Downsides: I did not go all the way to the warehouse part of the store where they keep all the really big stuff, and I did not use a cart, since I didn't want to press my luck with this technique. One user is saying there's a loophole/shortcut to the store's layout, so I will be looking for that in future.

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tasmaniansyrup OP wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted6627 in IKE@ thoughts by tasmaniansyrup

It's probably doable if you walk past them at a moment they're distracted with a customer, but there's no way to predict when that will be. And it's not so easy to explain plausibly if you screw it up.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

The bag technique is my go-to in any store that sells bags. You can also put them in outerwear item pockets, or tag items that ordinary don't have tags. Even double-tagging, while conspicuous, isn't as bad as leaving tags strewn all over the dressing room. Another option is to put them in an empty coffee cup, cover them with crumpled napkins (to prevent rattling) and throw the cup away in any trash can you can find.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

It depends on the store. Get a sense of the store layout, camera locations, how attentive the employees usually are etc. Even within the same chain there can be big differences in security and LP presence so being observant will be your best friend.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

Stores have a few to dozens of cameras. Someone may be in the back room watching a screen that cycles through all the different camera footage (or even switching between cameras to keep an eye on you to act sus enough to attract attention), but going through all the footage after the fact would take a massive amount of person-hours. They're unlikely to review past footage unless there's an actual violent crime or someone gets away with a cart full of ipads or something.

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tasmaniansyrup wrote

Reply to by dogmommy

I agree with neoliberalismkills. Yes, this will work, but having your getaway vehicle be someone's work vehicle could lead to complications if caught. And the trucker lifestyle doesn't lend itself to picking the safest stores or times of day, or scoping out stores before attempting anything. By all means do it, but stay aware of your surroundings at all times, never assume there are no cameras in the part of the lot you're in, and be aware that LP can block your path to the exit so it's not straightforward to just run. Staying observant & being willing to ditch a mission if something feels off will be your best protection.

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