Reply to by subrosa

subrosa OP wrote

Not the most accessible sound, but I had fun putting this together. Hope you enjoy.


subrosa wrote

Learning about the chocolate industry, it actually played a fairly significant role in the shaping of my worldview as a teenager. It kinda forced me to develop a sense of responsibility for my actions in every-day life.

Like, for example, buying a ton of chocolate just because society decided that's what we do around christmas, I could no longer do that. It no longer seemed reasonable, ethical or responsible. Because it pretty much inescapably comes with a price that someone else is paying, a price that I personally would not be willing to pay.


subrosa OP wrote

I'm so sorry... I wish I could find the words to express my support and solidarity.

I can only come up with things to say that my 15-year-old me needed to hear. Things I wish someone had said to me:

You don't deserve any of this. You're not weak for crying when you're in pain. It's not your fault that they make you go through these painful experiences, and it's not your fault that other people fail to support you when you need it the most. Don't take the blame. And no matter what anybody else tells you, nobody is 'above' you.

Just know that there's people out there who care. About you, about your well-being and your freedom. People who look out for each other, especially when things get rough.


subrosa wrote

I find individualist theories of self (and how it relates to society) quite enlightening, and I see a lot of potential for self-liberation in them. If your individualist leanings and your distaste for gender roles allow you to embrace yourself as a unique individual, then you're free to be your self, free to discover what that 'self' actually is or can be.

I think that's great. I can only suggest you keep being yourself, whoever that is, and don't let anyone shame you into caring about obnoxious and overbearing ideals. You can prefer masculine pronouns and call yourself male, there's nothing inherently restrictive about that.


subrosa wrote

Since one's quadrant depends more on one's personality than the nature of the rules, most people would occupy the same quadrant even if they'd grown up in a quite different society.

Didn't read the whole thing, so my comment may not be entirely fair, but:

Personality seems to be a product of both biological and environmental factors. So, to say that people would occupy the same quadrant despite growing up in a quite different environment, it kinda boils down to "people are born that way".

The way I see it, everyone has the capacity to act in any of these quadrants and to develop conformist or independence-seeking attitudes and mindsets. If there's any reason to change culture and norms, it's that it has a great influence on individual mindsets and, in the long run, shapes personalities.


subrosa OP wrote

We learned about her in school, but TIL she was propaganda of the deed'ed. Also noteworthy:

When Franz Joseph received the telegram informing him of Elisabeth's death, his first fear was that she had committed suicide. It was only when a later message arrived, detailing the assassination, that he was relieved of that notion.