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Reply to comment by /u/selver in Is this good modding? by /u/squattable

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squattable wrote

Hiya thanks for engaging. Yes i think TERFs are idiotic and transphobic. But i don't think this article is even giving a soft defence of them, i think it is arguing that terms such as TERFs can in certain circumstances be used to shut down debate, which is dangerous if you reflect on anarchist principles (as i explained in my comments). So then i didn't see a need for a disclaimer since i didn't see the issue. And still don't to be honest. And for the mod to then call me transphobic is simply ridiculous overstepping.

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squattable wrote

wowzers i think you are kinda proving the point of the article

1 you have seriously misunderstood this piece if you think it is a transphobic article written by a TERF

2 errr ok maybe better to reinstate the original link instead of a repost but indeed it's the same text

3 LOL i don't base my viewpoints on upvotes but that is an amusing thought

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squattable wrote

hiya i suppose it depends where you are coming from, but in the UK there is definitely a problem with the way that identity politics is being mobilised as an instrument of power within activist communities. it's always made me feel quite sad to see people demand space and equality and occasionally then when they get it repeat the cycle of oppression and repress someone else. it's the postcolonial issue in microcosm and it is having a devestating effect on activism where i am.

that is what this article is addressing in my opinion (i didn't write it). having said that, i don't think anyone wants to get away with identity politics completely. i don't think that's what the authors are arguing at all, so perhaps that explains a bit how they can be feminist, anti-racist and so on but still ranting. but to deny the problem exists would not get you very far in the UK context at least.

so what gets you out of the predicament? anarchism! it's very clear that if people concentrate on mutual aid and solidarity they can build their struggles and help others whilst being helped out in turn without repressing a new victim.

"I am a feminist anarchist, but I think it's more useful and more important to address the evils innate to our entire current system that are addressed by anarchism than to focus specifically on mistreatment of women."

yeah sure i think we can do better than that since that seems to allude to the classic manarchist saying baby womens rights come after the revolution, which is obviosuly fucked. i would prefer:

"i am a feminist anarchist and i try to understand the various interlocking way in which my comrades are repressed. i show solidairty to them, they show solidarity to me and together we are working to set up a better world "

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squattable wrote

hi moderator

1 if the discussion of the term TERF leads to articles being censored then i think you really have to think a bit about what you are doing. the terms of service state:

Content is prohibited if it: Promotes white supremacy, homophobia or heterosexism, transphobia or cisgenderism, misogyny or patriarchy, classism, ableism, body shaming, antisemitism, Islamophobia, colonialism or age discrimination.

is this article really defending TERFs? i feel like i must be reading this text with different goggles on. i honestly would not post it if i thought it was promoting transphobia. the only bit that caused me concern was the diss of Freedom.

2 i linked the original text by the authors (who i'm not connected to by the way, i just found it an interesting read) - you've now linked to a repost on 325, that seems a weird way to deny attribution

3 cheers for at least communicating your reasons even if i don't really agree with them

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squattable wrote

ummm even when they say "We do get it, it’s not all about class, but if we can’t rally together to even recognise who really holds the reigns of power then we haven’t a hope in hell of getting anywhere."

maybe you skim read it? if we can't even debate things like this here then i wonder what the point is