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ravengrace wrote (edited )

I think it's ok to share info about stores but just to be careful about the manner you do it in , basically. And people who should read the wiki and master list before they ask questions. I don't want to prevent people from sharing info I just want it to be in the most secure way possible.

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ravengrace wrote

I don't have a problem with helping people but I think it's more useful to be able to know what to look for when lifting , and there's already a master list of stores and guides somewhere in the wiki on this site. Someone asked me to tell them what stores to go to, It struck me as odd because it's like haven't they ever been to a clothing store in their own city ? They should know the LPs and cameras better than anyone. Maybe I'm just paranoid , but I'm careful of what I share on the internet because I'm not about to get trolled irl.

So , I wanted to agree that if a store is very specific to your area consider just generalizing it or wiping your posts every now and then.

I want to support anyone to learn shoplifting as a skill who wants to. I guess what I meant to say, is I appreciate this person questioning our security culture and we should talk about it regarding our security as a group, including newbies and long time lifters. When I consult my techy friends , maybe I'll post regarding their advice.

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ravengrace wrote

I grew up in a "christian home" going to a pretty progressive church, never the less it fucked me up psychologically for life. I won't go into the arguments of atheism because there's a lot written on it, but regardless if God is real or not , I wouldn't follow any Abrahamic religion. Because it's fucked

-indocrtined patriarchy and hierarchy -things can be interpreted in many ways , perfect for gaslighting

-the entire religion is based on guilt and shame

  • the church industrial complex, turned out churches own a lot of shit (in the media and property)
  • they say they help people, but they only want to help wed straight couples
  • they are responsible and still are for a lot of colonization in the world. Example, when they go do those volunteer trips to Africa
  • many people take for granted that it's a missionary religion, meaning it's the goal to spread it as far and wide as possible. Most other religions aren't like that.
  • responsible for burning over 6million women in Europe, erasing traditional knowledge and culture of European pagans and replacing it with Christianity and eventually capitalism. Because the first step was to take away power from queer people and women, and create a reason for divine power and ownership of the land that was once shared.
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ravengrace wrote

Maybe try again to make sure if you're worried, they can't kick you out for buying something. When I've worked as a cashier, sometimes people's cards decline but work when you try them again, someone's a debit machine is picky when you don't push the card in really hard, or the debit machine acts funny the whole day since it's connected to the internet. I don't think they'd block your money, because that's kind of counterintuitive ? They could be on to you but I just don't think they'd block your money. But who knows.

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ravengrace wrote (edited )

I'm surprised the negative response I was thinking it's not the greatest security culture. Not because we should be keeping the stores to ourselves- I can find the stores easy to shoplift in my area just because I already have checked alot of them out, in my hometown I know what stores to target too. There are already guides written on specific stores in Zines. There's probably a very small chance of it getting traced back to you but for the same reasons against posting hauls I'm careful about it. People get mad when they hear about things like this(that this site exist to help people shoplift) so I'm careful. It's probably fine if it's Walmart or a store most cities have though. But trolls etc could use the info to find out where you live. Also you can wipe your old posts every so often on this site to keep yourself safe.

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ravengrace wrote

don't contact the police if they're not involved it means that they can't do anything about it or they haven't been called. Stores can make civil demands that have nothing to do with the police... I would suggest NEVER call the police ever. If they try to talk to you do not talk to them because if they're talking to you, it means they are trying to get information from you to use against you. Just tell them you want to talk to your lawyer. do not even chat with them.

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ravengrace wrote

Someone suggested lifting some magnets from Home Depot , and putting them in a stack to get the right amount of power. (I ordered a golf magnet instead but it sounded like a good idea). The wiki suggested 15000gs for magnet strength

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ravengrace wrote

Try to introduce them through other ways than intellectual or theory material. through actions because no one wants to feel like they are hanging out with friends and it turned into a lecture. (Not saying you're doing this ) . What radicalized me was not theory but seeing anarchy in action and being welcomed into a supportive community where people share skills , help eachother , I saw the mutual aid in action.

Or media that's more entertaining or visual and accessible like radical comic books. Submmedia documentary, etc. Radical punk or hiphop music. Invite them to volunteer at food not bombs.

Go to a self defense class with them, there is a queer self defense club where I live.

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ravengrace moderator wrote

You told people to wear Muslim women's clothes to shoplift... Yes Muslim women are women. I explained to you why that's islamaphobic. Muslim women are already targets of violence they don't need you to make it worse for them by further stigmatizing the Niqab. Also , youre wrong, people who are minorities are less likely to shoplift because they are already targets of the police.

Here are the terms of service: https://raddle.me/wiki/terms_of_service Please read it.

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ravengrace moderator wrote

This is a warning. Islamaphobia or sexism will not be tolerated and promoting wearing a burqa in order to pretend to be a Muslim woman you will be banned because the prepetuates the rhetoric of conservatives and the right wing that burqas and other face coverings are dangerous because they could be worn by men committing crime which has never happened. This puts Muslim women at risk for more violence. In reality they are already targeted and watched as if they are criminals. Telling people to pretend to be a woman also promotes transphobia with the transphobic rhetoric that trans women are not women and pretending to be women, and that by pretending to be women they could commit crimes

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ravengrace wrote

I'm sure not all black people care about white people wearing dreads , but that doesn't silence the voice of so many other black people who have told us why white people wearing dreads is not okay and how it effects them.

Even if one black person says it's ok to wear dreads it doesn't make it okay, many others have voiced how it effects them and it's important we listen to that .

But many black people and me((nonblack) and tons of others , know that context of the world we are living out in , white people wearing dreads is not okay. emotional labour shouldn't be on black people all the time, black people have bigger problems and it should be up to non-blacks to tell eachother to stop wearing dreads. Why? Here's why :

  • racist beauty standards : mainstream beauty industry praises white women with black features (example Kylie Jenner wearing box braids and plumping her lips) but shamed black women for having those same features( many black people aren't allowed to wear dreads at work or school) Kylie Jenner profits millions for those same features and copying black people's style.
  • the history of dreads , it has a cultural and spiritual meaning white people didn't grow up with
  • white people's hair is different and dreads can't be cleaned properly since it's not the right texture of hair .
  • it represents history of black resilience and resistance

Alot of white people claim their dreads just formed because they didn't brush their hair , and they want to be primitive or live off the land which I support , but even primitive ancestors of non blacks brushed their hair for cleanliness. In those days cleanliness was a matter of life or death and people brushed their hair because if you don't it causes dirt and mold to get matted in your hair and an infection could kill you.

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ravengrace moderator wrote (edited )

@u/Throwaway46578 Ableism will not be tolerated in this forum. Promote faking a disability and you will be banned. People who actually have a disability don't benefit from it and it's not okay to suggest they do. People with disabilities face just as great a risk if not more of being arrested.

@u/Trustwh0m @u/Throwaway465748 Islamaphobia or sexism will not be tolerated and promoting wearing a burqa in order to pretend to be a Muslim woman you will be banned because the prepetuates the rhetoric of conservatives and the right wing that burqas and other face coverings are dangerous because they could be worn by men committing crime which has never happened. This puts Muslim women at risk for more violence. In reality they are already targeted and watched as if they are criminals. Telling people to pretend to be a woman also promotes transphobia with the transphobic rhetoric that trans women are not women and pretending to be women, and that by pretending to be women they could commit crimes.