rattledlove1139

rattledlove1139 OP wrote

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True but also think about things like needing help showering, diapering, or dressing and undressing. Can be especially vulnerable to sexual violence when disabled and that trauma can make very hard have help, at the same time might need hands on help to get done so can not really say No.
And then horrible cross section there where sometimes sexual violence happen because not able say no and keep body privacy, not without harm self - especially if rely on abusive family member or partner for caregiver

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rattledlove1139 wrote

Almost definitely no i think
"Good" case get attacked and shut down... if people so far in that join specific right wing platforms then need lots more to make change and at that point probably would not happen because so surround and trench

talk about environment lead people like that down to "disabled people should die" and economy "poor people should starve" and police "black people should obey" and so on so on. They think all justify already. Maybe someone not yet decide what feel could benefit but those people almost for sure not even there they would still be "neutral" places

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rattledlove1139 wrote

I think agree just one little piece sort of rub wrong way

When I’m told (…) to make myself more legible to “normal” people, it enrages me.

I just hope not how react always because i have trouble understand and not only one. And i want try be in and support things, not "normal" person on outside. Think more value in make space for questions and simple language

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rattledlove1139 wrote

Reply to Friday free talk by monday

I want to sew together mini booklet for myself
I also do not want to sew together mini booklet for myself because sewing paper is frustrating
what a predicament.... result will bring joy but process will not

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rattledlove1139 wrote

I do not follow this forum closely because not currently and do not think can ever be fully vegan (disabilities + eating disorder, for clarity of others viewing, easy feel alienate from conversation) but really appreciate seeing this. Especially this:

It shows an insecurity in the vegan morality and a willingness to draw the same line in a different place so as to feel morally justified in eating anything at all.

can not find same things in plants that find in animals or in humans, but that is not guarantee proof of not have similar experiences at all. No one here plant who can just say plant experience either.
"Not causing pain" not always helpful metric because already "pain" define only with animal kingdom standard and not consider plant life as maybe have something similar. Everything plants do "just mechanism without thought" and not "real sentience, pain, communication, etc"... isn't that how also see animals for very long time?
So if did prove plants feel pain, then what? Dig heels and deny? Guilt self forever? Starve? None really fair.

i like how you said, and what I feel too - regardless if plant experiences "real sentience" and all - feels lighter when treat with same respect that try give other beings. That means try reduce damage and kill much as possible, be mindful what take and how treat, and have gratitude. Most that is hard if not grow for self, rely on other people with farms and employees they may treat horrible, but even gratitude part important and still possible apply day to day while aim for better.

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rattledlove1139 OP wrote (edited )

I do not know if someone misunderstood or just looked and decided not worth respect but there is negative point, shame
But i figured might explain when i say Ask
it is not with words out loud because I already can not really do that. It is more like i give the plant a touch and see how my core responds. If i feel a sinking beat that means no. Rising means yes.

could argue that means my reaction alone, not plant, so i should not see as if plant have feelings and communicate them. That is silly to me. I do not care if true, because either way I am feeling "No, this is not good idea to take."
So why should it matter then if i feel that because i subconsciously tell myself "I do not need this" or "this could do too much harm", or because there really is some kind of spirit in plant communicating in its own way "No, you can not take this" or "No, that would hurt me"? (I still think even without spirits, there is room to say we don't fully understand plant life and how it communicates or feels. Bite me i guess.)

Sometimes i think decisions and actions like this do not need some hard proof to justify carrying on if they ultimately help. My respect and gratitude of my food, my objects, and plants around me help me live life I am proud in, so why matter whether core belief "proven" right or wrong?

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rattledlove1139 wrote

So frustrating!! Repair and restoration videos intrigue me but i am careful what channels, some upload just far too often or suspect in other ways. I think (i hope) Odd Tinkering is OK - advice and tools seem to make sense with what i know, if nothing else.
I did not know about turtle videos specifically but seen other animal "rescue" videos - of course for some time most were probably real and not staged, but now also many fake ones because real ones pave way of profit, it's horrible.
In worst case fake videos could throw even legitimate operations (item repair, animal rsecue, or otherwise) under suspicion just for trying to share and educate on the real process - if you know one's fake then hard not think maybe all is.

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rattledlove1139 OP wrote

Prepackaged food is not really eating without aid because someone had to make and package the food, and thus someone is aiding, whether one comes into contact with them or not.

That is true, sorry for confusion in words! Suppose i really mean at-home preparation part is "without aid" - like i say, caregivers can not always do things, and some people unlucky enough live without enough (or any) caregiver support in first place. Easier manage eat if something pre-peeled is sold/given as is or something just go in microwave for a few minutes.

People try so hard to do things by themselves, and that means lots of machines, mechanisation of everything, but however much we don't want to bother or deal with other people we never were meant to do things all by ourselves.

yesss. I think also bit of that in what i say above - disabled people get look down on for dependence so lots us seek out ways to have little bit independence. Most everyone wants to do some things for themself, but especially especially if everyone else says you're useless because can't do this or that. Things prepared in advance and simple to cook, or simple to put together, or anything, can be really key in feel accomplished (even if very small) and even take some stress off of caregivers.

i think if less stigma and more honesty about dependence, would still be important have things we can try without direct/at-home aid, but would not feel like crush whole character or make "useless".

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rattledlove1139 wrote

I do not understand what that means. Name calling and saying i make excuses (I am living with eating disorder and i should not need say this just so anyone take seriously) is hostile. It would be hostile if i did that too.

Not sure people understand what i say when i bring up possible plant suffering. I say that means suffering is not best measure to decide veganism because at some point may be found true that all life we eat suffers, not just animals. Even without that possibility, human workers suffer too, in lots of harvest situations are inhumane conditions preying on vulnerable people. Therefore to make no suffering in food choices would need to not eat at all which is not really productive diet, because suffering baked into system. That is ALL i say and not understand why people keep thinking i say things I do not!

I think more about earth health and opportunity. And being grateful for whatever food is available, for all life (plant, animal, human) that give something up so i could eat another day. i do not have choice just become vegan but I want to be able eat thoughtfully and support world where others do same, eating much less or no animal product. I have not once say suffer is good ethical or veganism is useless just that this one way of measuring is faulty.

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rattledlove1139 wrote

I do not know if really agree irrelevant, suffering is not "better" just because have some understanding in situation, and should care for affected humans too. Even relief human workers may get do not negate how much suffer in rest of that time.
Whole food and job system need to change, until bigger and better changes set in there is suffering all over. Unless can 100% provide for self but that is not really viable position right now for almost everyone.
I have my goals too (maybe when less tired i will talk more about my wishes for how things could be) but right now need to focus on eating disorder first. So unfortunately for me goals DO need wait. I wish could just say "I caused no suffering" but regardless choice I can not, I make peace with that

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