fantastic

You probably won’t get in, but just by running you’ll be raising awareness of an alternative route. I’d say do it.

Incredible; thank you.

I got trolled

I think what he's saying actually makes sense. Totally the wrong person to say it, though.

I think just the fact that you can be an expert at something makes that unviable as a general strategy. On average, you're always going to lose to a professional army, criminal organization or whatever. You'll always lose to gang violence - and you just can't get rid of it, whether it's criminals or the state.

Absolutely nothing. I think this kind of thing is just not possible to get rid of.

I don't think that. I think we'll always be subject to some form of tyranny.

It has training, resources and professionalism that an ordinary community doesn't. Someone who's been a police officer for 20 years is going to be a lot better at it than some random guy off the street.

This doesn't sound like something that's ever worked, but it's also unrelated because I was talking about the mafia and organised crime generally.

I agree that idea is deeply flawed, but I think also, the idea that you can just destroy the police and be free from tyranny forever is crazy.

The mafia (or something like it) itself would retaliate against you; probably not with arrest, but elsewhere.

This group will take control of some resource supply that there's a shortage of and they will use this for power. I just believe that the mafia only exists because of the law.

The detectives and criminologists who piece this stuff together ore pretty specific kinds of scientists. The kind you only have because they're needed by law enforcement.

I agree with this in many cases, but I can't imagine there not being a need for specialist forensics in certain cases. I also think there will emerge another power structure that will take over through the use of violence.

There would be a new monopoly on violence (the mafia is best placed to become this) and there will be another oppositional force (you) which will equally be infiltrated by the mafia. I don't believe this kind of violence is something you can just get rid of.

Of course, but not all of them.

My question is just the reverse of yours. Assuming they'll be replaced, how does removing them help?

When I say the mob, I mean organised crime. As bad as these people are, they're not the mafia.

I don't disagree; but I think if you remove these people, others will take their place and they won't necessarily be better.

Historically, this usually doesn't happen.

So I'm sure I'm going to make myself extremely unpopular here, but without a police force of some description, how do you stop yourself becoming effectively governed by the mob?

Pretty fucking stupid.

I can answer that: no.