kano OP wrote

Yea for me at least it's about the whole colonial thing and the historical context of when Zionism got going that makes me kind of satisfied with leaving Zionism as white supremacy. The Zionists have been portraying themselves as defenders of the west for a long time, and also started their colonial ventures during the height of European colonialism in general, and there's plenty of Zionists who ain't Jews anyway.

But I don't really wanna say anything else here, don't really need to convince the people of anything, just hope they also agree that Zionism is a settler colonial venture.


kano OP wrote

to be honest, there's so much relationships and collaborations and similarities and parallels between the white supremacists and zionists that its hard for me to take this comment seriously.

Even Theodor Herzl was talking about bringin European values to the 'savages' or 'barbarians' or whatever during the height of European Imperialism. If that's not white supremacy then idk what is.


kano OP wrote

The link says "Zionism" and not "the Zionists" unless am really missing something. Anyway dk if you read the article or not, but examples are being given there. Here's some quotes from Jewish Agency people during the time of Nazi Germany. Found these all in Palestine - A Socialist Introduction

“There is something positive in their tragedy and that is that Hitler oppressed them as a race and not as a religion. Had he done the latter, half the Jews in Germany would simply have converted to Christianity.”

Menacem Ussishkin president of the Jewish National Fund

Whom to save: Should we help everyone in need, without regard to the quality of the people? Should we not give this activity a Zionist national character and try foremost to save those who can be of use to the Land of Israel and to Jewry? I understand that it seems cruel to put the question in this form, but unfortunately we must state that if we are able to save only 10,000 people from among 50,000 who can contribute to build the country … as against saving a million Jews who will be a burden, or at best an apathetic element, we must restrain ourselves and save the 10,000 that can be saved from among the 50,000—despite the accusations and pleas of a million.

1943 private memo of the Rescue Committee of the Jewish National Agency

“It is the job of Zionism not to save the remnant of Israel in Europe but rather to save the land of Israel for the Jewish people and the Yishuv.”

David Ben Gurion

The hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centered on emigration. I was asked: “Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?” I replied “No.”… From the depths of the tragedy I want to save … young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world…. Only the branch of the young shall survive. They have to accept it

Chaim Weizmann

Toward the end of the war a staunch anti-Zionist, Rabbi Dov Michael Weissmandel, met with high-level Nazi officials to make a desperate deal. The Nazis knew they were losing the war and needed cash. They told Weismandel that the remaining Jews could buy their freedom for a large sum of money. The Nazis gave Weissmandel a deadline to come up with that money. Weissmandel flooded the Zionist organizations with his pleas, but they chose to do nothing. The deadline passed. In an agonizing letter to the Jewish Agency, Weissmandel wrote:

Why have you done nothing until now? Who is guilty of this frightful negligence? Are you not guilty, our Jewish brothers: you who have the greatest good fortune in the world—liberty? … Twelve thousand Jews—men, women, and children, old men, infants, healthy and sick ones, are to be suffocated daily…. Their destroyed hearts cry out to you for help as they bewail your cruelty.40

And the whole thing with Rudolph Kastner is gone over in the article, so I ain't gonna go over it again here.

to be clear I'm just trying to show here that the policies of the Jewish Agency were not completely unrelated to the Holocaust.