jert_the_gnarwhal

jert_the_gnarwhal OP wrote

Well no one has put up any "plan" yet. I realize there are plenty of small tools that can resold but for one the smaller the item with a larger price the more it is watched. And reselling takes time... Which equals money for me. The way I see it not many employees are anticipating a big evap unit to be lifted. I could get in and out with it in 3 minutes tops. If I had a partner wearing a home depot garb push it out next to me I don't think anyone would bat an eye. $600 could be made in an hour here.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by happymama

I don't think it's that much of a heist. Borrow a truck cover your plates. Go to Lowe's after hours with bolt cutters and should be no problem. They are chained out front

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jert_the_gnarwhal OP wrote

Well I'm open to hearing about how someone would pull it off... Not reasons on why it shouldn't be done. And to say it's not worth the time because I could just build some company a website for $500, buy a pair of knee pads, and suck their dicks while I give them a presentation is dumb. We sleep in a fucking hammock and don't own a computer.

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jert_the_gnarwhal OP wrote

A tactic I used once that worked amazingly was staging then leaving my empty wallet behind close to my staged merch.

I came back 5 minutes till close and informed the staff I had left my wallet somewhere. All employees were diligently searching while I bagged my goods before "finding" my wallet.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to Shoes by notorious

Basically any store that has all sizes out. Go to a mall or outet location. Get a bag from one of the other stores. Go to target location without your bag and "shop". Prep the shoes you want for the lift (E.G. relocating, detaging, removal from box, and/or hiding out of sight.) and leave.

Return 30 minutes or so later with your bag and grab your staged item. Do only this on the return trip being careful not to move too fast or too slow. Finally gtfo. 3-5 minutes tops on your return trip.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted18058

Personally I would look for a target location that doesn't require you to ask dick breath to run and grab your size.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted8295

Because it wasn't a name change. Shoplifting was done away with and the existing threads were graciously moved to the illegalisim sub.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Ooof. I hope you mean used to as in you no longer do target. I haven't stepped foot in or around a target since they built a felony level case on me. I got super lucky though since the charges were thrown out because it was a bad stop after the dude put his hands on me. It wasn't until after that I actually learned just how serious they are about asset protection. They're really on some next level shit.... I've learned a lot since then and do many things differently then I used to, but every once in awhile I look back and cringe at how naive I used to be...

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted13183

Congrats. Sounds like you did great for someone as new to the game as you. As far as tips...

I saw someone else mention this: If you're able always stop at a fitting room or restroom after you lift and before you leave the store. Like go inside the bathroom, enter a stall, count 30 seconds and flush, then exit the fuck out of there. This is to break the 100% eyes on rule of the 5 steps and a lot of LP wont be able to make the stop per company policy.

Another tip I'll throw out there is personally I don't like to head straight for my target merchandise right off the rip. I prefer to take about 10 minutes of doing absolutely nothing that's suspect just in case LP decided to watch me when I walked in... that way, hopefully, he's decided I'm not a risk and moves on to another potential lifter if he was watching me. The exception is if I can get in and out extremely quickly. Example, sometimes I'll do a lift at a drug store for some chocolates that my girl like's. In that case I walk in and head straight for the candy isle. I remove my coat and throw it over my dominant harm while on the way to that isle. Grab the goods, conceal under my coat, make sure it's secure and can't be seen and I'm on my way b back out of the store. In and out in about 1 minutes time.

In my state, concealing is the same as shoplifting as far as the law in concerned. So I would suggest concealing as close to the exit as possible.

Put as many precautions between you and your enemy as possible.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to comment by MsAppropriate in by !deleted12364

The statute of limitations on felonies is 7 years I believe. So they can bring up those charges anytime within that time frame. Also, so you know, the police have been known to bait people in this fashion. Example: Someone get's busted by police, arrested, and charged with a misdemeanor offense. There's evidence on this someone that would give the police an open and shut felony case but the individual isn't charged. Then 6 months to a year later this someone is once again arrested and is facing a big case with multiple felony charges and he's smoked because he's been under surveillance for a few months.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

yeah, you need to be sure they're not going to check that you haven't loaded up the jacket first. I've made this mistake before. Going to the fitting room only to have the SA find that every single Item had another item of clothing hanging with it, as well as socks and shit hidden inside the pockets... lol.

Also, I always feel like going into a fitting room to try on a jacket looks just a tiny bit suspect, but that might just be paranoia.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted11235

most recent item under $10: Starbucks espresso shot from the gas station.

most recent item over $10: dark blue and white striped long sleeve t-shirt and a super cool black hooded pullover sweatshirt with a built in face mask/kinda scarf thing... its pretty awesome.picture a hoodie designed by ninjas specifically for committing armed robberies.

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote (edited )

Reply to by !deleted13161

Well allow me to give thanks. On behalf of all of us working diligently to take the redistribution of wealth into our own hands, you are appreciated.

So I've noticed the newer Walmart's seem to have forgone the dome type security cameras and are using a newer type. From what I can tell they have a cylindrical housing and are most concentrated in the checkout area with each lane having one directly above where you would stand in line and and cluster of them in electronics. Maybe I'm missing something but I've been having a real hard time seeing any of those types of cameras throughout the normal store. Sure, I've noticed one here and another there but nowhere near the amount of coverage I'm used to.

So my question is: is the camera coverage really as scarce as it appears? Is it possible Walmart has that much vulnerable floor space? Or have they began to rely on hidden cameras more? I've personally never some across a hidden camera but I have read of others posting about them on this forum. Could you break down the typical layout of the newer stores, or any layout your familiar with?

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted13161

also...

How long would you watch someone normally that you initially suspect until you decided they most likely weren't going to steal merchandise?

How strict are you on having your 5 steps?

In your opinion what are the 3 most successful shoplifting techniques or hardest to circumvent? What are the easiest?

What do you think the biggest myths and misconceptions common among the common shoplifter are?

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jert_the_gnarwhal wrote

Reply to by !deleted13161

Welcome first of all.

For starters what made you want to get into this line of work?

What times of day/night have the largest AP coverage? The least?

What are the top 3 departments/products that may warrant you're attention should a customer/potential lifter show interest in those departments/products?

What are some of the most compelling red flags that will draw your attention in your opinion?

...more to come.

also, thanks for your time man.

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