icypaper
icypaper OP wrote
Reply to comment by fortmis in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
After re-reading, I think I understand. Are you saying that you personally are of Indigenous descent and for that reason don't feel like Marxism applies to you?
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Reply to comment by fortmis in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
I admit ignorance as to where you are guiding this conversation, and apologize for any potential insult I made due to that.
icypaper OP wrote
Reply to comment by fortmis in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
Yes, but how would this analysis in particular give insight on how to defeat capitalism, the system that did its best to exterminate other forms of economy?
icypaper OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by fortmis in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
When you say "shortsighted," what do you intend to do with the analysis of these indigenous societies?
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Reply to comment by Bezotcovschina in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
While yes, that is true, that same European capitalism is the one that eventually used colonialism to make its system global, and for that reason I feel that the focus you call "Eurocentric" is justified, since that is the system we are currently trying to defeat.
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Reply to comment by Bezotcovschina in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
Would you not agree that the more developed capitalist nations take control of the underdeveloped ones through control of their infrastructure? This has been pretty part and parcel throughout capitalist history, and I don't think it is eurocentric to acknowledge that. Please explain your understanding further.
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I would appreciate a more in-depth explanation. As you explained, the common anarchist view(beyond the ancoms I have experience with) do not view capitalism from the "oppressor-oppressing" class standpoint that a Marxist would view the stages of economy on, but rather the more simple metric of "is there authority in this system?" Also, explain who you think the transition from feudalism to capitalism did and didn't benefit.
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Reply to comment by fortmis in Difference between rise of capitalism and rise of communism? by icypaper
I will agree that some of the analysis of Marx and Engels show symptoms of Eurocentrism(particularly in Engel's Origin of the Family and his conclusions on the indigenous people mentioned there).