existential1

existential1 wrote (edited )

There's a lot of discourse here already, but I'll add some thoughts from the perspective of someone who grew up in the food industry (worked at 10yrs old) and still makes food for a living now (vegan food manufacturing).

A lot of people do think of "American cuisine" as white American but that's extremely ignorant. Even the basic ass wiki on American food notes this. But when talked about internationally as a slur, the American food referenced is often the fast casual version of something.

If we're being real, American food is as diverse as the people here, which is the most diverse country on the planet in terms of ethnic diaspora. You can in most states get the food of any region of the planet and likely have multiple representations of that area to boot. You might have to travel a bit, but the pro tip is to find the refugee/immigrant resettlement agencies and find where they've been placing folks. I promise you'll find amazing food.

A lot of negative opinions of American food are because people limit themselves to a certain type of experience and that's all they get.

Edit: I'd add that I don't think anti-american sentiment is racist as American isn't a race, but sure, that sentiment can contain erasure of American ethnic/racial diversity.

There's also the tourist market and food/restaurants that cater to them in the US and towards American tourists abroad. Those types of places are usually quite "watered down" to suit the perceived interests of whatever type of tourists visits.

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existential1 wrote

Reply to comment by capsaicin in Praxis by ziq

Your analogy is actually understating it. More accurately....

What if you used to murder people, claim that you're reformed (you aren't), get introduced to a guy named brian by your mentor larry (larry helped a younger brian evict and murder tenants), design a weapon for your new buddy Brian, give your buddy Brian money so he can pay your friend nancy to make the weapon (Nancy gives you a kickback), give your buddy Brian money so he can buy ammunition from your other friend Katy (Katy also gives you a kickback), help Brian aim his new Loaded weapons, bring your own weapons to prevent others from killing Brian, then let Brian murder whoever he wants.

That's not a perfect analogy, but it's much more accurate than what you had previously.

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existential1 wrote

Guess i ain't buyin that anymore. But to be fair, these companies are all trying to grow to the point they're they're ubiquitous and vegans aren't ubiquitous, we're a niche culture. A growing one, but niche. Support your local vegan businesses that and fuck these forever growth capitalists.

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existential1 wrote

I've legit have never had a conversation that unironically had the word dialectics in it that I would consider a good conversation.

I think it's one of those things that some people embody in their use of learning with others but at this point you can't reference it without seeming gatekeepy. Which may or may not be a bad thing, but I think that's real.

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existential1 wrote

Sadly, outside of the references to Oct 7th and the ethnic cleansing to genocide thereafter, this could have been written Oct 6th with just as much accuracy. Ole' Bibi been saying they got nobody to negotiate with for over a decade meanwhile they straight negotiating with 'em right now. Not enough clown emojis in the world for Likud.

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existential1 wrote

In my opinion, for most situations, the only L comes from not learning. So making mistakes isn't a problem at all, it's all about taking that info and improving or testing against what you know. There's also humility in knowing sometimes it just ain't ya day.

The main enemy of learning is being stuck in limiting expectations. If ya keep your mind open to learning it may change your outlook and responses. But it'll prob take practice.

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existential1 wrote (edited )

As the first my immediate family to not eat animals I've been there. Still am with where I live being one of the most carnist places on earth.

The easiest thing you can do is just bring things youve bought/prepared for yourself with enough to share if people are interested. If someone wants to control what you put in your body, that is their problem. Food is a big cultural thing and family dinners even more so, but if they don't want you to eat within your boundaries with them then they don't want you to eat. Simple as. If they got problems with you bringing your own stuff, and they don't want to make stuff for you, just don't eat there. Eat before and eat after...if you must still go.

I feel like I've seen or been through all this stuff. Hell, I still get talked down to for making my own food when everyone else has their own carnist snacks or quick meals while I have to make whole things from scratch. It doesn't really ever end, in my experience, but you can resolve yourself in your principles.

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