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db_cooper wrote

That depends entirely on how you define hands on, and what LP you run in to specifically. I've been stopped at frys, essentially tackled as they were cuffing me because I tried to run, and my head was immediately smashed into the edge of the propped-open front doors and split open, bleeding all over the place.

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Honestly I think it's kinda mediocre as a costume, but I have to admit that I kinda like the protein powder tub idea. You could even make the protein powder tub into a faraday container. Honestly though, I find actually using a duffelbag to be really a fucking pain in the ass, which is why I tend to never use them. It's usually somewhat noisy, very conspicuous, and it just feels awkward, especially if you are trying to do it while the bag is hanging on your shoulder. It might work pretty well if you were at a store that was in the same strip mall as a popular gym, assuming you went lifting at the appropriate times for it to be most reasonable.

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Honestly buying something is for amateurs. The only times I have ever been caught (3, all of which ended with cops/legal action/etc and me being tackled) I bought something before leaving. It gives LP the perfect amount of time to setup and get in the perfect position. They inherently know when and usually where you are going to leave the store from when you waste time buying something. If you are going to get caught, it doesn't matter if you paid for anything, you are only going to SE your way out of a pussy bullshit encounter with employees, real LP is going to slap handcuffs on your ass before you can say "ohhh i forgottt". You don't think they have heard that stupid bullshit every time they stop somebody? During walkouts I've had LP or other employees attempt to stop/detain me many times, including even brief chases, but each time the moment I hear "sir" I start fucking RUNNING, no fucking around, and usually they are basically incapable of stopping me. I don't even turn my head when I hear it. If they give serious chase, I spill my loot all over the ground and I keep booking it. I'm not even super fast on my feet, I can get busy but I'm better at long distance running. The reality is employees don't want to chase you over stolen shit, especially if you look like you aren't gonna be easy to chase. Plus most places store policy prohibits it, even though that doesn't really mean shit on the actual street.

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A lot of people just keep the hard tags in their pocket, leave the fitting rooms, and then with a little slight of hand they'll either drop em into some random pockets, or simply attach them back on other items, you can choose to double-tag clothes they already tag normally which is a common mistake made on the floor so it doesn't look too odd, or you can randomly tag stuff that they don't normally tag. Both methods work about the same, it's just your personal preference. This convenience is one of the big reasons people bother to carry detachers. That is a fair answer though, sounds like you have a good system for clothes which you have definitely planned out effectively enough. I like the behind the mirror idea for sure. Maybe try using Gorilla Mounting Tape? That might help with the larger tags especially. It would hold them more securely, require less tape, and be faster/easier to get enough tape firmly onto the tag imo. Small inconvenience of having to remove the protective film from the top side of the tape, but I find it to be really easy with that particular double-sided tape.

TBH if you are really hitting clothes that hard, you honestly should consider carrying a proper magnet, or at least a hook for sensormatics. I think you are worrying too much about "motivated" employees, nobody is going to wind back a tape over a loose hard tag being found in a pocket. That simply isn't going to happen. Plus you aren't on camera concealing, and they didn't physically stop and search you to confirm the merch was on you. In many states, they would be hard pressed to build much of a case from just the footage of you selecting merch and the alleged concealment/miscounting at the fitting room. What if they counted 5 items, this stores limit, but you simply had 6. None of that is any real evidence of crime. If the LP is watching you that hard, they definitely have a better chance than you seem to think of finding the hard tags in the fitting room. They won't find a tiny AM soft tag behind the mirror, but a couple hard tags taped under the seat? Depending on what exactly that seat looks like and how it is mounted, it might be trivial to find those. This also is going to depend where you go. If it's Saks 5th Ave or Neiman-Marcus, that is the kind of place you want to consider detagging like a pro, because the security is very likely to be good. All of this of course depends so heavily on your location and the stores you are targeting, and there is always random factors beyond our control, no matter how much planning and tradecraft you have.

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Oh naw you probably totally good then. Unless some dumb shit happens like you walk up in that store again, this time with your parents, and the same employees are just chilling. They can't just magically figure out their phone number, send a telegram, some dude on a yak with a sealed rice paper scroll to your crib, or whatever yall got over there. If you paid for what you stole, and no cops, that means you got lucky and they were trying to look out for you and your future young brotha. If you gave them a home phone number or anything, leave your house phone off the hook for a day or two. Beyond that, it's basically impossible anything else will happen.

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db_cooper wrote (edited )

You should probably chill on the lifting until you are out from under your folks supervision if they would really be tripping that hard anyways. Sounds like this either just isn't the road you want to travel down, because for most people it doesn't really go up from our youthful indiscretions and criminal misdeeds, you usually just kinda keep doing dirt until you end up doing time, oding, having a kid, or some dumb shit. Honestly I don't regret it but I wouldn't recommend it if you have anything else going on in your life that is more positive/beneficial you are risking by boosting. Or say fuck my future, imma do me, hit the streets, get out there and start hitting licks shorty. Just don't post it all on snapchat or some really dumb shit, and don't tell shit to anyone unless you know they doing more dirt than you for sure, and even then, think before speaking.

Honestly if you are sweating your folks kicking you out at all, like at all, thats a pretty massive sign that you aren't in any position to do the ol hit the streets classic maneuver. You should probably just consider this a good life lesson, you got off easy, stay in school, don't start smoking sherm and dicking down nasty hoes, consider yourself lucky. When you get older, boost just for the jolt when you feel like you want to jump off a bridge whenever you start thinking about your mundane life. It works pretty decent for most, we don't need this material shit anyways. It's all about experiences. Besides, soon enough you can just do drugs and still feel like a bad ass, it's easy to not get caught doing that as long as you keep your fucked up ass at home/the party.

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lol are you some low rate paul blart with a plastic badge and some smith and weston cuffs? thinking you are suchhh hot shit with your awesome judojitsu takedown techniques? Or are you just a lonely troll, spending your thrilling days and nights waiting to hit em with your next big zinger on /f/sherplerfting ?

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db_cooper wrote

If you are a minor, you need to keep checking your mailbox if they got your address (either you would have told it to them when they were filling out paperwork/grilling you, or if you had ID on you, they just copy it from there). You are almost certainly going to be receiving some shit in the mail, civil demand paperwork, blah blah blah, throw it str8 in the trash bin, but watch out cause that shit is most likely coming.

If your parents don't already know, they won't find out any other way most likely.

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Actually carrying a list (fake or not) can help with this too. Makes it easier to get into the mindset you need to have. These are your items, unfortunately they were misplaced here in this store, but now you are just covertly retrieving them. Simple errand. You definitely are putting too much work into it. I'd recommend trying to build up the confidence to just walkout, depending on what stores you are targeting. You are correct in thinking that you need to eliminate nervousness though. In the beginning that's one of the key things that will give you away to LP.

"young, clean cut, white guy"

Yeah you should definitely just consider walking out. Also you could get a thermal printer and print your own receipts if you want to look more legit/feel more confident.

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db_cooper wrote

I've been waiting to boost one/several of these. I only found a store once that had 1, probably a return, lazily placed back on the shelf instead of the empty boxes. So if I know of some locations that had the Canon PIXMA IP8720s ready to go at the front, they should likely be stocking Circuits in a similar fashion now?

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Hey man, I really appreciate your posts but you should edit this one.

"Rule 4: Do not share or solicit personal information. It should go without saying, but what we do is illegal, so you should never reveal anything linking your account on this forum to your real identity. Posts asking for shoplifting partners, or posts asking to buy/sell stolen goods are not allowed, as these could be attempts by police officers or moral crusaders to doxx shoplifters."

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Fry's Electronics 9/10. Incredibly good PTZ cameras throughout the store. Receipt checker always stationed at the door. It is a large store so some small blindspots may exist, but their loss prevention personnel are some of the best I have encountered. They may chase and/or use force to detain you if they get their 5 steps, and they will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law every time. Generally seems like they work as a team, 1 LP on the floor and 1 on the cameras. Honestly I don't think it is worth the trouble to try lifting here but YMMV. If you are going to do it, fill a cart and push it straight out the emergency exit. The LP office is generally located near the front doors so this tactic is highly effective if the emergency exit is located at the far side or rear of the store.

Whole Foods 3/10 Some locations have more cameras than others. Some seemingly have almost none, others have a few in high theft areas. Mostly they seem to just be a deterrent, I don't think they are actually monitored ever. Usually if they think you are stealing, you will just get customer serviced very heavily. Best tactic IMO is to either bring a bag or grab one while you are there, fill it, and bail straight out the door. Normally there are multiple exits, some located away from the main registers. Typically you want to utilize those if possible. Some high traffic stores will have uniformed security and/or off-duty cops stationed near the doors. Simply avoid those locations at those hours and come back later, or be very casual while lifting and give no fucks. Again, they are just a deterrent. AFAIK, they have basically no LP personnel, definitely no plainclothes.

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db_cooper wrote

How well does the magnetic signage sheeting work? That seems like a solid bet as well, because it's available cheap in rather large sizes (2' x 5'[60cm x 150cm] for $20) shipped domestically. Also, what about this? https://www.amazon.com/MAGNETIC-SHIELDING-Shielding-Magnetic-Fields/dp/B00NMS67XQ Would something like that, plus a thick layer or two of magnetic signage sheeting, separated with a non-conductive layer, be effective?

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db_cooper wrote

Depends entirely on the store. Some do, especially high theft/traffic stores, but most do not. We also have incredibly few towers that can detect magnets or booster bags, even at fancy "high street" stores. Mostly they are just very large stores that are understaffed by very underpaid employees.

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Also the paint shakers inside rusto and killz( the only 2 brands of commonly boostable paint you want to use for graff) are actually glass marbles and not metal. Just don’t be shaking the shit out of your bag and be ready to run/ ditch the goods. This isn’t pussy shit, 5 cans will barely get you 3-4 throw ups if you really stretch it.

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Do you want to write graffiti or what? Every writer with balls that I know simply fills a backpack or reusable shopping bag with a 10-20 cans, or if hitting Walmart they fill a plastic storage bin or garbage can full of paint (most I’ve gotten was 125 cans at once). Find somewhere rural/suburban where spray paint isn’t locked up. Typically it will be considered a low theft store as well if the spray paint has no locked cabinet so LP is less of a threat. Then fill your chosen vessel with a quickness and don’t dick around. Straight in, straight out. Park far away, and ditch the bag or cart if it doesn’t feel chill before you pass the last point of sale. Or just sprint out the garden section. I recommend Jo-Ann’s fabrics, Lowe’s, and WalMart. Home Depot tackled me over a dozen cans and I was somewhat smooth that day so I recommend you think long and hard before heading there. I’ve also had to dip fast out Hobby Lobby so I don’t really recommend them either, but it can be okay to boost there, plus they have ironlak.