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bwqrdsaf wrote (edited )

This can bite the retailer in the ass if they go after someone and it turns out the accused has a twin or triplet and has alibi him/herself.

"I was in a pub with 20 peoples at the same time as the alleged crime occured, you can check the camera there"

Other sibling "No he/she is lying I was the one in the pub"

In USA, cases have been dismissed because the prosecutor couldn't positively identify which one of the identical sibling is the culprit.

Edit: other suggested using glasses or hat that blocks camera. If no one is monitoring the camera, this can work. But if someone is monitoring the camera they will see suspicious blinding glow in the camera and track it to one person. Person with concealing device will be watched closely and if you're caught lifting, the glasses or hat will be considered burglary tool.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Depends on if the box was concealed and how long it takes for them to find it. At one Walmart there was an empty box for a $300 wifi router that remained hidden for about 6 weeks before it was removed. The spider wrap was still wrapped around the box but the box was ripped open to get the router and parts out.

Even if LP looked at the camera to find out, they'd need to go a very long way back to find the moment someone carrying the router in the blind spot and left without the router I doubt they ever figured who may have done this one (not me).

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bwqrdsaf wrote

I'd get a lawyer and have son show up in the court. A good lawyer should be able to prove the video of the suspect does not look like son (and maybe son has alibi for the exact day and time? Like school?) and get the case thrown out. Best case scenario: the store ends up having to pay legal fee to son. This would cost the store a fair bit.

OP is to avoid court completely since employee may recognize OP as the real lifter, not the son. And stay away from the store for many months minimum.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Unless the battery is dead. The alarm is always on, no switch to turn them off while it's strapped in, so the battery is being drained continuously.

If the battery isn't dead, the second someone cuts the wire it'll set off the alarm. The only one without wire alarm are the really small tag, roughly size of a walnut that could be attached to shoes or something odd shaped. They have only RF or AM tag for the exit alarm.

PS it's very hard to cut those wires. A basic wire cutter will get ruined easily.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

If the vehicle owner did not go in the store, make sure he knows what the alibi so police won't have a good reason to arrest yet. "A few of my friends also have car keys, I don't remember which one drove that day"

If the vehicle owner went in the store and the store got good picture or employee got a good look at the lifter, it may be hard to worm his way out. But do not go with police if they do not have a warrant, and do not talk without a lawyer present.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Those costs $$$. Just print out a fake "temporary" plate with really thin handwriting for numbers, stick it in the back window (bonus, tinted glass makes this even harder), remove the real plate, and then enjoy the trip.

As long as you don't attract police, no one will know the paper plate is fake.

Reply to comment by /u/Crusty in Giftcards by /u/Angieo0

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Only if you have access to cash register that is connected to the system for activating gift card. Cashier would be responsible so if someone activated a gift card for $100 and the till do not have $100, the cashier will lose the job and be on the hook for missing $100.

AFAIK we don't have a way to bypass cashier or cash register, and copying the number then checking later after someone buys it is a dick move because that someone will lose, not the store.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Cases do not beep if opened. They only beep at the door so if you got magnet or S3, open it, hide the case or stuff something small like a LEGO box and leave it there.

For big stores like Walmart, most of them do not have security at doors and a IDGAF greeter so you could skip opening the case, hide it under your coat, buy something like Pepsi bottle and a bag of chip, walk out, ignore alarm.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

The policy are in place to protect employee from expensive insurance claim if they get injured stopping a lifter, and from liability to the store if the attempted and violent stop out to be a bad stop or if the lifter gets seriously hurt or killed. There's this case from 2005 and also employees getting charged. Cases like this are bad for PR as well.

Many stores are hands off if the person gets rough, just get description, the car and its plate if possible, and let the police deal with it. No need to get hurt or get the store dragged in expensive mud if the suspect didn't take anything.

This employee should have remembered the rule and just notified manager or LP and let them watch and let the police sort it later. So it's all on the employee who got herself fired for violating the rule.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Small stuff like memory cards are always locked behind somewhere, they leave photocopy of them out for customer to pick up and buy so not steal-able. Hard drives and most other small stuff too.

You might get away with something big like $300 router or something.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

Bring magnet with you but don't plan on lifting. Walk around like you're casually shopping, pick up a nice expensive item that is in spider wrap or case and then take your sweet time here and there in the store.

Be sure to buy something with cash in case you're followed, and casually look around in blind spot while discreetly checking for peeping LP. If no one follows you at all all the way to checkout when you buy cheap item and tell cashier "changed my mind" about expensive item, and no one still follows you, they may not have magnet detector or the store may not have LP or anyone to watch you in person.

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bwqrdsaf wrote

If you get fine from the store, ignore them. They generally won't go after you in the court because the cost for lawyers is much greater than the fine. Without court order or police arrest report, they generally can't do much else.

So burn the letter and don't go to the store for years.