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anonym wrote

they aren't forcing anyone

This is what causes all the tensions between anticivs and socialists. Socialists assume anticivs are working to destroy civilization the way socialists work to destroy capitalism via a violent revolution.

But anticivs don't work towards a revolution or think such a thing is in any way attainable. They simply recognize all the factors that have led us here - to this unprecedented mass extinction event we're in the middle of. Not just capitalism / statism - but all manufactured structural systems, starting from the invention of agriculture - which created private property, slavery, policing, wealth / poverty, hunger, greed, etc.

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anonym wrote (edited )

I understand that leftists on mainstream social media sites spew the 'primmie garbage, ableist, reactionary, terf, go eat berries' cliches everywhere and it's hard to get out of the habit of the collectivist-shaming games that leftists engage in almost out of habit, but you'll find the political discourse on raddle is a different animal.

That kind of rhetoric gets a lot of push back because it reminds us of the authoritarian circlejerks we came here to escape. It's important to have a developed understanding of the concepts you're critiquing instead of throwing out buzzwords to dismiss the well-thought-out critiques of other users.

There are probably also more anti-civ vegans on this site than anywhere else, so you're barking up the wrong tree by assuming anticivs are carnists. Theyr'e anticivs because they trace the root of hierarchy and misery to civilization instead of merely stopping at capitalism. Which means they spend a lot of time thinking about ways to overcome hierarchical and oppressive systems... so they're more likely to be vegan than your average anarchist as they understand how oppressive agriculture is to both humans and non-humans.

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anonym wrote

It was also very petty of you to frame her interaction with you as 'making feminists look bad' when all she was doing was reacting to you demeaning anticivs and talking down to her and making snap judgements about things you seem to be ignorant about.

Hopefully you won't delete this thread so it can be left up as a learning experience.

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anonym wrote

Looking at the thread, you said to her:

get off your computer then primmie

You also misgendered her:

jesus fuck man

and then

You should commit primitivist praxis by dying when you're 25

And so then she said to you:

You should prove you're a good feminist by getting yourself killed ASAP so there's one less man to deal with.

So if we break it all down....

You're a man.

She's a woman.

You're attacking primitivists by claiming they're transphobic and stuff.

You're attacking her for being anti-civ. Telling her, a woman, that primitivism removes women's options.

She's trans. Tells you primitive people weren't necessarily transphobic or misogynistic. Gives you a history lesson.

You continue to attack her, and talk over her to say she's just being foolish and doesn't know what she's actually supporting, despite her clearly being very well read on the subject:

you cant reconcile primitivism with the fact that you enjoy and benefit from factors of modern society every day. Deep down you have to know that this is not the answer. Throw out all your condoms and use herbal abortions instead, see how that works out. Im not trying to be the "people who live under capitalism cant criticize capitalism" guy, I know im coming off that way, but seriously this is so dumb.

I think you started it by attacking anti-civs and she's understandably frustrated by the quality of your engagement. Especially because she's giving you real information and you're dismissing it all and instead talking over her.

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