Whatsthepoint

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Whatsthepoint wrote

you are correct, Fascism is about more than just violence.

According to Lenin and others, Left wing fascism does exist. So perhaps you know more about left wing politics than the father of the Russian revolution, I don't know, while i've read a bunch of his stuff, I've not read any of your books, to make an accurate judgement to that end.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Here is the rub though. How you treat your enemies is what in truth defines you.

Just as a society can be judged on how it treats it's most disadvantaged members of society, so to can it be judged on how it treats it's enemies.

When considering morality, it's worth considering plato's cave. Otherwise one runs the risk of courting total hypocracy, and with it, lose any and all credebility

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Whatsthepoint wrote

It's not some similarity - they are exactly the same. They are symbols of fascism.

The swastika was / is the sign of a political party that subscribed to fascist political doctrine e.g. violence against people I oppose politically is aye ok

But the symbol of fascism is and has always been the fasces,

I'm a little suprised someone on here is fighting me on the idea that the US governement is a fascist entity that readily opresses people and enacts violence against those it opposes politically.

The UAF engages in the same activities you've declared are 'fascist'.

Much to his chargrin, there is little agreement in the top tier of UAF, about anything. takes em a day and a half just to agree on which pub to meet at.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

The original definition I gave was:

"a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion".

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Actually I put my people before the company, everytime.

I encouraged and enabled people to achieve their real world creative goals, as well as getting everyone pay rises. The extra pay, thanks to hard work by yours truly and the turning down of my own pay-rise, meant that I was also able to cut peoples hours significantly (was salaried position - so a good thing)

More money, for less hours, that wouldn't have been possible through collective flat organisation.

But yea, I'm enemy number one. lol

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Whatsthepoint wrote

15,000 sucesful attacks on the US DOD, per year, and those are just the ones they are detecting (conservative estimates put that as low as 25-30%, unconservative estimates put that number lower)

Same company also offered Londoners completely free wifi on the Underground network as a "gift" for getting the 2012 Olympic "collesium distraction" games, UK gov blocked that too, on the same grounds.

"it's not paranioa if they are really after you"

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Whatsthepoint wrote

If this is your definition of a fascist, then this makes every single U.S. president a fascist in some fashion (no pun intended),

take a closer look, because I would say your sarcasm is not needed. https://uschs.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/house-speakers-rostrum.jpg

Those are literally fasces, celebrated, in prime position in the house of representitives. The US government IS a fascist government and has been for quite some time.

Fascism is not a political direction, it is a method for promoting a political direction.

It really worries me that this is not understood. The head of the UAF (unite against fascism) in the UK understands this, hes a nice chap, we used to go for pints together and talk about how to put the world to rights and fix broken films together.

Fascism is dangerous, donn't for a second think that it somehow magically stop existing once you get to the centre ground.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Because this is exactly what making it harder and riskier for DRUG DEALERS to organise does.

(capitals just to make edit obvious)

same logic, same outcome. I would submit that all your are doing, is hardneing your enemy. When people come out with opposing views, it should be welcomed, as an oppertunity to set out your case.

I just find the whole, insta branding of people, most of whom are children, increadably reactionary, ugly, spiteful, ignorant, short sighted, and worst of all, deeply counter productive.

It makes the left look petty and authoritarian.

When 'joe average', who doesn't really care about politics, but still has a right to vote, comes to the conclusion that he will have more rights, freedoms and liberties under a right wing government, than under a left wing government... you are not making progress, and your not doing the left any favours

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Whatsthepoint wrote

dictionary.com is trash paid for by advertisers.

I thought I would give you credit by providing a more in depth definition. Oxford Dictionary:

1.1 extreme authoritarian, oppressive, or intolerant views or practices

You can be left wing, you can be radical, you can be anarchic communist, while still alowing other people to express their views, without punishing them

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Whatsthepoint wrote

That dox has made a teenage edge lord - and probably his friends and family, shift towards the right and now out of the reach of the centre for some time.

Doxxing anyone under the age of 21 is a-moral.

Apologies for not realising that increasing the number of people who support the right and extreme right was the goal

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Whatsthepoint wrote

"a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion".

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Whatsthepoint wrote

I'm not being obtuse in anyway.

A higher level of insurance, the kind that pays for people to take voluntary medication, that is not taken to treat a specific condition or alleviate active medical symptoms is obviously going to cost more money.

This will need to be offered to every employee (because otherwise it's discrimination and or favouritism) which means it's going to affect workers wages.

Nothing obtuse.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Stalin was a fascist.

Hitler was a fascist.

King of Saudi Arabia is a fascist.

People of any political persuasion who seek to suppress, harass, intimidate etc. People of differing political persuasions, are also fascists.

Fascism is not linked to right or left.

George Orwell predicted that the next wave of fascism would be seen on the left.... pity some seem determined to prove him right.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Antifascists are strictly interested in preventing recruiting for fascist causes

Well apparently Emma does.

Also I don't see how he is a fascist. Nothing I have seen would suggest that.

Sure he is a dick for snitching on his schoolmate .. but that doesn't make him a fascist.

Perhaps before you start calling me names again...take a moment to consider the story of the boy who cried wolf...

It's soon going to get to the point where the left calls out a genuine fascist, but will get ignored because people will just assume that it's just a person who doesn't hold left wing / progressive / sjw views

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Whatsthepoint wrote

What evidence do you have that this person believes that his nation should be strong, and that socialism is the best way to bring about this strength

Cos you learnt what the political stance of actual Nazi's were, before you started calling people that right?

Tho I will say, shouting "national socialist scum" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Oh I see.... driving him out of his school, away from his friends and probably making him worry about his safety is going to make him become left wing and not entrench his view or drive him towards, or at least leave him vulnerable to recruitment by the extreme right... silly me

Good to know that thanks to this action the left has another trooper on the ground.

Bet his mates and others in the school have been motivated to look into left wing causes and politics too /s