TonyTheAnarchist

TonyTheAnarchist wrote

Reply to comment by ziq in Marxism-Leninism Vs. anarchism by Ant

Lol no... The manager is equal to the other workers. The manager is on a different table entirely. Look at the little (no entry) sign between each organizational division - it signals that the manager has oversight over the employees (because we will still need people to manage / coordinate duties in an anarchist society), but not hierarchy. The manager is their equal, not their superior.

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TonyTheAnarchist wrote

Reply to comment by kin in Marxism-Leninism Vs. anarchism by Ant

You're all turned around, this isn't how anarchism works. Our hierarchy is flat, which is to say horizontal. There is no one below us on an anarchist hierarchy, only side by side with us.

I know it can be hard to grasp an anarchist organizational structure if you've never thought in these terms before. Here's a chart of a typical horizontal hierarchy:

https://wcs.smartdraw.com/organizational-chart/img/horizontal-layout.jpg

If you look at this chart and envision how it could be implemented in an anarchist society, you should gain a better understanding of how anarchism works.

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TonyTheAnarchist wrote

Okay, comrade. If you're going to claim to be an anarchist then you simply can't go around saying stuff like that, even jokingly, because if you want to be an anarchist, you have to care a whole lot more than the average person, you have to hold yourself to a higher standard, because if anarchists don't care, who will care? Who?? This whole nihilist apathetic every man for himself attitude is why I stopped coming here and it obviously trickles down from the very top if you're one of the leaders. Why would you want to make the users think you don't care? To think anarchists don't care? What kind of backwards uncaring message are you putting out into the world?

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TonyTheAnarchist wrote

I'm afraid this is a bit of a straw man, friend.

Violent suppression of strikes:

The reasoning for this is that in a worker-run workplace, strikes only hurt the workers as they are orchestrated by imperial powers who infiltrate, divide and conquer. There are much more effective avenues for workers who have minority views to air their grievances than by undemocratically shutting down production. They can speak their mind at the regularly scheduled union meetings and if they have popular support, their proposal would be implemented. If they don't have popular support, then they're free to choose a different workplace. A minority striking to force their unpopular views on the rest of the workers wouldn't serve any good.

Drug probition:

I'm actually straight edge so I'm not sure why this is a negative?

Compulsory labor:

This is the most reductive claim of all. MLs aren't going to force people to work against their will, that would be slavery, which no communist supports. If someone won't or can't work, they'll be provided for by their comrades because in a post-scarcity economy, there's always enough to go around. Socialist states have the biggest welfare benefits by far.

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TonyTheAnarchist wrote

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Welcome comrade. It's true that us anarchists are idealistic but that isn't a negative! The flaws of our ideology aren't our idealism, but in fact a lot of anarchists aversion to organizing. Coordinating dual power requires some hierarchy because there needs to be a chain of command and I wish other anarchists would understand that we need some hierarchy in the short term in order to work towards abolishing unjustified hierarchy later. We need to show our fellow workers that we can create alternatives to all of the states services so they'll be more comfortable trusting in us to replace the state with properly organized and structured institutions.

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TonyTheAnarchist wrote

This forum used to be run democratically but I lettuceLeafer have taken power and destroyed democracy. You can try voting, it won't do anything but make the mods laugh. This forum is a lettuceLeafertocracy now, cop fucker. If u don't like the change you can go talk about how anarcho syndicalism totally is a good idea on reddit bc you aint bringing democracy back on /f/_meta.

Why are the admins allowing you to take away our democratic rights? Is this some kind of rightwing coup? Can whatever this person did please be reversed by the real mods and our democracy be restored?

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