TheLUL

TheLUL OP wrote (edited )

Not Ishkah, it's a partly pirate project, yet you take glee in publicly naming who you think the owner is. Almost like you hope there's a legal case against the owner/s like some Kaczynskist outfits have threatened.

But sure, shoot us for believing it was possible that we could create an archive like Steal This Wiki that they'd potentially enjoy seeing as part of their "other great sources of anarchist texts hosted here" category.

There were three events, months apart, that Anarchistlibraries.net gave as the culminating reason that made hosting us on their servers too much of a hassle:

(1) The Ted K Archive hosting 50 or so anti-fascist texts + 10 or so fascist texts with disclaimers, as part of a section on anti-fascist research material. This included reading on fascism that Ted Kaczynski admitted to reading when he was a young library loner, which lasted at least 3 years, and involved him having fantasies of being a fascist dictator sending his followers to kill people he hated.

“From age, say, 15 — 18 I went through a certain phase.... This was what I may call a romantic phase.... During this period I was attracted to German Romanticism. I also read Alan Bullock’s biography of Hitler and became interested in Nazism. I used to fantasy myself as an agitator rousing mobs to frenzies of revolutionary violence. Thereby I would become a dictator, and I would send my Gestapo out to round up all the people I hated — and there were plenty of those ...”–Ted Kaczynski’s 1979 Autobiography

“If I could remodel the world to my heart’s content, I would be an absolute hereditary monarch. I would relegate the routine tasks of governing to ministers and spend most of my time in the pursuit of both physical and intellectual pleasures. I would gather together scholars from all over my realm and study and discuss science and mathematics, for the sake of intellectual stimulation rather than for the purpose of applying it. Also, I would have court musicians always at hand to provide music when I wanted it. I would perhaps also attempt military conquests.”–Ted Kaczynski’s 1959 Autobiography

(2) The Ted K Archive risking archiving a Kaczynskist zine called Garden with one section redacted. Someone, maybe the cops, then told the domain owner, who then complained to the server owners saying it was illegal. We're sure this isn't the case and think it would be great if someone wished to do what we did and fight a legal case to prove zines like that fall under freedom of speech.

(3) Steal This Wiki digitized the classic yippie text 'Steal This Book', which has one small section on (probably shitty) b*mb making instructions, but the text has remained in print since the 60s by established book distributors, and recently had a popular 50th anniversary reprinting. Then, the text was promoted on multiple platforms like reddit, raddle and r/ObscureMedia, a discussion was started in the comments of the r/ObscureMedia post about potential collaboration on digitizing more books by one of the publishers who used to sell Steal This Book, called Loompanics Unlimited, so a text dump was created of Loompanics Unlimited journals. Then, someone sent in a complaint to the server linking this text dump of Loompanics catalogs saying "Did you know that your server is hosting straight up HOW TO MAKE A B*MB texts?" But no such guide exists in the Loompanics catalog they linked.

But yeah, big dignified win I'm sure for the people who made efforts to get us deplatformed from our servers by telling lies and just making it too much of a time sink for the owner to sort through the claims: "The point is that I don't have time/will/energy to dig this whole affair and understand if I agree with what you're doing."

They helped migrate our servers and we're now in discussions with another web developer to help us get a forum board up and running without pop-up adverts on multiple domain addresses like <forum.stealthiswiki.com>, <forum.thelul.org> & <forum.thetedkarch*ve.com>.

This forum board was created as a 'proof of concept' and posted in the anarchistlibaries and anarchistlibrary IRC channels, to get people's feedback and no objections were raised. We don't want it to remain on freeboards with all the pop-up adverts, so ideally, once it's hosted on enough domains it will be moved and deleted. If there is a unique domain address created for the forum, what other name would you suggest for a forum to discuss various anarchist libraries other than anarchist libraries?

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TheLUL OP wrote

So, you get annoyed seeing discussion around and rational for projects you don't like, in a space you otherwise like spending time in. But, rather than channelling that annoyance into giving your best long arguments against the rational for the projects existence (which could sharpen your philosophy and critiquing abilities), instead you'd rather just give short insulting straw-mans.

All of that to me just reads as a petulant person trying to preserve the dogmatic aspects to a space they enjoy.

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TheLUL OP wrote

Potentially so, I just figured if I was looking at a list of revolutionary groups espousing various political philosophies, and I didn't know who any of them were, my main motive for deciding which to pick first would be whether I was in a mood to read about groups who had a roughly positive effect on the world or a roughly negative one.

Do you have a themed sub-categorisation you'd suggest? Or would you sub-categorise them by date? Or leave them as one big list sorted alphabetically?

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TheLUL OP wrote (edited )

If we're talking about the same communique, they actually didn't claim to have smashed any windows, which is somewhat surprising, since they even went to the effort of bringing chains to lock doors with, but maybe they were worried about alarms going off.

The main reason that I view them as holding character vices is just that they promoted Ted K as a 'freedom lover', when Ted has argued for example that 'rebels should have as many children as they can' and that he hopes "the population explosion gets completely out of hand, because that will increase the likelihood that the system will collapse. Once the technological system is gone, population will decrease very rapidly, because without modern technology it will be impossible to produce and distribute enough food to supply such an enormous number of people."

On a side note, there's also texts in the roughly good category of groups, which discuss arsons of logging company offices and horse slaughterhouses.

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