Starshine2304

Starshine2304 wrote (edited )

I was talking in terms of everybody in general including liberals, not in the sense you mean. How exactly is what I wrote related to that at all?

"Everybody who isn't a fascist" refers to everybody in general who isn't regardless of what they are or what condition they have. Thus everybody rightfully should be able to learn how to defend themselves.

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Starshine2304 wrote

There is no legitimacy to any laws that ensure people who haven't bought land or don't rent can't have a place to live either knowing this. Until a common means of subsistence is allowed for people this fact will remain true.

Not promoting anything but just stating outright facts here. Any 'breaking' of those laws to achieve shelter from anybody is an act of resistance against state sanctioned violation of human rights and systematic genocide built into the system designed to exterminate people who can't fit into the system.

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Starshine2304 OP wrote (edited )

But see here, this is why they do need to have access to them. So do alot of minorities in areas where racist violence is escalating. This recent event where right wingers threatened to molotov their camp or bring weapons: https://raddle.me/f/homeless/139991/boise-community-mobilizes-in-the-face-of-threats-of-violence

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Starshine2304 wrote (edited )

See, this is why I made the suggestion I did previously. They've threatened to bring both weapons and also to molotov their camp as you can see. Some improvements can be made or maybe somebody can write up something better but this exactly is why I suggested what I did: https://raddle.me/f/homeless/139702

Not only do the homeless need to arm themselves and train to fight back but in general there is this point. Everybody who isn't a fascist (In the sense of liberals too) should be able to learn how to defend themselves or their communities. It is in their right to do so https://raddle.me/f/armedleft/139815

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Starshine2304 OP wrote (edited )

I see it being better than this scenario where a right wing militia brings weapons to a homeless camp or threatening to molotov and burn it down without expecting any retaliation if they assault them.

We need everybody armed in situations like these and we need facilities where the homeless can learn to defend themselves if their communities are attacked. Make it just not worth it for them: https://raddle.me/f/homeless/139991/boise-community-mobilizes-in-the-face-of-threats-of-violence

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Starshine2304 OP wrote

The bent was for the guns to be deterrents against those who marginalize them if you get what I mean and also with the other purpose being they have a way of defending themselves.

To be fair for the first part, I never really thought strongly over how arming them would work, just based my idea off how distribution of firearms is thought to happen. It was just how I imagined how it would be like. I just thought it has to be done looking at the situation recently and historically involving harassment.

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Starshine2304 OP wrote

Was thinking of a program where you can hand in guns you no longer want, get donations to buy them for the homeless populations or 3D printed ones that are reliable and cheap to produce.

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Starshine2304 OP wrote (edited )

If the homeless were all armed wouldn't reactionaries think twice before harassing them though? Especially if they could be trained somehow to defend themselves and their communities. It just would not be as easy to push them around or commit assault against them. Main point would be for that factor to act as a deterrent.

There are already anti-homeless vigilante groups so why can't they have firearms and also opportunity to be trained in using them?

Fundraiser to buy guns for them or for people to hand in unwanted ones and also maybe people who can produce readily available, reliable 3D printed guns for the homeless in the U.S?

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