Sracry

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Idk. But stupid ass ppl talking on cell phone video chat anywhere in the vicinity always tricks me into thinking somebody(lp) may be potentially following with a walkie, until I see the idiot. Seriously be surprised at the amount of people facetiming or video chatting while shopping the aisles these days..Never failed to piss me off bigtime

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Sracry wrote

Haha right on :D

I came up with that all because honestly because I totally thought about this before quite literally for my self in case I got banned. I was stupid enough to lift from a store I actually enjoyed shopping at and didn't mind spending my cash in, but free stuff is just somehow became way more appealing..So now I got a fresh ban from that store, and definately not going to that store for at least a year or so but since I'm supposedly banned from all stores I came up with the idea of travelling to another store and putting on some kind of disguise. Most LP are looking for the exact person in the pic..they are too lazy probably to think too hard about what that person might look like if they changed their appearance drastically, plus if they tried to pull someone aside and you were not the person they were looking for it would look so bad on their part maybe even get them fired. I think if they have any reasonable doubt it might not be the person in the photo, they won't push it..

If they somehow detect you and say something just make a scene and act super offended. As long as cops aren't there act really discusted that they are singling you out then just WALK OUT! nothing they can do once youre off the property..also, make sure to park somewhere discreet so you can get into your car with out them seeing your plate and get out of there quick. Keep your keys in you pocket or something for easy reach.

This is going to be me sooner than later but ban is too fresh don't wanna chance it going to give them some time to forget me..plus..I'm worried they might be building a case against me. if you don't mind check out my other thread id love to have your two cents!

Oh, and I honestly have no idea where you can lift wigs, but you can get some decent ones on ebay, just buy a lace front wig those are the most realistic, and if it's too shiny spray it down with a good misting of dove dry shampoo and brush that through..and if it's too uncomfortable wear a headband or hat, it will disguise any skechy looking parts on your wig!!

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Sracry wrote

Thank you so much for replying to all my posts!! You have no idea how much it means to me, I know it sounds dumb but I just need somebody to talk to about this right now.

What I am extremely worried about is that they may be now case building. I could almost not sleep last night.

Since LP mentioned he has my photo, and banned me I am worried that maybe this is only the beginning for me. Because once he shows it to each manager of each store the managers will likely comment on how regularily I've been coming in during the past few months, and maybe they will decide to investigate and case build due to the high financial losses.

I know for a fact management dislike me since I've been glared down and followed a couple of times but at the time I honestly didn't think they knew the extent of what was going missing and to be honest at the time was feeling invincible and just didn't care..

So, Since they have footage of me picking up, and then dumping, what if they add up the amount of what I had (About $120) could they use that in court as the "average" cost to the store each time I came in? Cause that would add up BIGTIME if they pursued charges and went with that as an estimate.. I also regretfully didn't even care about the face cams they have on the door that record every face that enters and exits and since I formed a fairly consistent pattern, they could easily find the dates and times I came in and case build against me quite easily..

The worse part is in late December I used my (now ex-boyfriend)s debit card in the store one time because I got nervous. The one manager who recognizes me was there as well (walked up right as I was paying) so they could easily find that date and time and look it up in the machine. I was actually super paranoid right after that happened, but nothing actually came of it.

Since it's not my card, if they looked it up, would they possibly try to contact my ex boyfriend and ask him if he let anybody use his card in the month of December? He doesn't know about my "hobby" and if he did he wouldn't agree with it, plus I know for certain he would rat me out because he hates me now.

If he ratted on me for using his card, could the cops come to my door. and arrest me based on his word that I used his card and the management and the video footage in the store of me buying something?

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Running just going to make you look guilty, but walking too slow if they follow they will be able to catch up. Also, If you end up make a huge scene, Be careful of bystanders who will be wanting to play a "hero" to help recover the goods (smh)

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Be careful, ive been in one that put magnetic tags inside the boxed foundations (stuck to the product in case ppl unbox) . Im not sure if they were put on there in store or came that way. Sneaky sneaky though

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Sracry wrote

Haha you kill me.

Are you m or f?

Just put on a pair of fake glasses and a hat if you're a guy, or change your hair color or style.

If you're a girl, than girl pull out that wig!! If you're self conscious about wearing a wig just throw on a hat over top. If you don't normally wear makeup, wear some but dont cake it on. Makeup can make a huge difference in looks, even with out being super dramatic. With a different hair color and style, and different makeup they'll never pick up Im sure!!

Last, make sure to not dress in a manner to which you'll stand out on camera..

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Sracry wrote

Sorry, somehow I missed this! Yes, he was plainclothes, and Im certain I saw him talking into something a couple times when he was at a distance from me.

I cringe each and every time I think of him going back to the homegoods section and collecting all of the stuff I dumped, and reviewing all the footage. UGH.

When they ban you, how do they go about enforcing it? Do they show your photo to employees? Is it even legal to be showing employees photos of alleged shoplifters? I feel like that would be against my rights somehow, since my circumstances, being an alleged shoplifter or not, before being proven in a court they are labelling me as something that may or may not be true, and that seems like it could be slanderous to my reputation which is not cool or fair

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Sracry wrote

This! I knew the employees had some suspicion but only one maybe two employee actually cared..I just avoided those ones and didn't lift if they were around..sometimes they made it super difficult which was such a piss off!!

Also, Im 100% certain this LP was sent there just to locate and hopefully put an end to the problem..I had certain days of the week I went and I showed too much of a pattern..I saw some signs certain people (management) were getting susp of me in all 3 stores..I ignored those signs too busy chasing the rush I was craving

And the LP issued my ban not the management, but to be honest from the reading Ive done thought LP was allowed to issue a verbal ban?

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Thank you, your replies have been super helpful

I definately won't be testing that store and will stay away.

I still can not help but wonder why he didn't try to detain me then and there? because I read somewhere LP can detain you if they have evidence of previous thefts (enough to prosecute) and will just call the cops to come pick you up.

As I said previous Im not sure at what point they picked up on me, but it took several months before this guy actually showed up to catch me. So I'm not sure if maybe they just started reviewing the footage now or what. He mentioned that there is "pictures" so that must mean somebody was reviewing footage previously. Im just confused because if they saw me sooner why didn't they send someone way sooner? This store was like a candy store for lifters prior to his ass showing up. Im just surprised it took them months to call someone in. They must not care that much about their merch.

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Sracry wrote

Thankyou for your opinion. will definately update.

Thinking about it just makes me so paranoid. I keep wondering if that idiot is now making it is life goal to go through all of the footage they have collected of me to build some big case against me months from now.

Is it possible to convict somebody with out knowing the total value of what has gone missing? Could they estimate and tell a judge to just go with that or does it need to be proved on paper?

Couple more questions if you don't mind.. If cops get involved do you suggest the person involved should refuse to answer yes or no to any questions asked? Is there any benefit to claiming innocence in this kind of situation or could that potentially work against you?

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Yeah this guy seemed really flustered and hostile. I felt like a little kid being shouted at, the way he approached me and got up in my face. I cant help but wonder if he reacts like that to somebody on their first time or if he only does that to the seasoned shoplifters. As I said, he claims he "had pictures of me from the other store" but stopped short of saying he personally saw or had acual evidence of me lifting anything.

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Sracry wrote (edited )

Thanks, I absolutely wont be returning.

Thankful for the net or else I would have never known how to spot LP.

I didn't know it was typical LP policy to approach a shoplifter AFTER ditching the goods.

Yes with out going into details I suspect I am am way way "above" the limit and that is my number one concern. I suspect maybe blind spots have been on point for the most part. But recently in the past month I have pulled some bold moves on camera hoping the footage would just go unnoticed.

I honestly think it is because I figured out early on this chain has rotating LP, So it felt like a free for all since they were never there. I never, ever had anyone watch or follow me till the other day. Should of known they'd send someone eventually. Took them many months though, which is so crazy