SnowCode

SnowCode wrote

I don't know much, I've used it a little, and honestlyball the stuff with BAT and Brave seem like a lot of bullshit to me. Brave Browser already did some very sketchy practices. I feel like BAT is just an excuse for placing ads on the browser.

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SnowCode wrote

Ok, there's quite a gap between "making explosives" and "a balloon filled with ketchup" xD. Well if that's really your idea, there is no rule that forbids you to make ketchup ballons I think xD

As for whitelisting, whitelisting is done after interracting with the cmunity and participating on other threads. It's not done by requests.

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SnowCode wrote

I didn't watch the whole thing because it's a topic that I have strong feelings about related to things I already talked about before on this site.

I am anti-psychiatrist (I am against the normative nature of psychiatry that treats it like it was "just a biological illness". Many abuse have been made by psychiatry, and I'm not gonna list all of that because otherwise I would write a book).

So I got on a anti-psychiatry Discord server, I don't exactly remember how I found it, and that server kinds of reminds me of this site in term of mentality. The users there have told me I was "highly disrespectful" for asking my friends how they felt and that I was "trying to control and coerce them". They had in general a huge distrust of anything related to emotions and relationships with others and heavily discouraged everyone to express themselves and communicate how they feel as a mean of "safety".

I am not for pressuring people to talk about how they feel and panicking when they don't want to (mostly because it actually causes even more distress and guilt to them and make everything worse, I unfortunately learned that the harsh way).

Hopefully there was at least 1 person there that was nice and linked me to another server that is actually pretty interesting and with very nice people in it.

I just don't really like the way that the author of the video just describes the fact that it's not "normal" (as not the same morality as everyone else and "extreme") as an argument. You can very well have "extreme" ideas about psychiatry and society and yet not be an absolute incel asshole (see things about support groups, etc).

Also, this excuse of nihilism with incels and fascists in general tend to happen a lot it seems. I find it quite ironic to treat an idea like nihilism like a dogma. But I've seen it at a lot of other places.

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SnowCode wrote

Well for me I only heard about the term of "lifestyle anarchists" as a slur said by fans of bookchins or Marxist-Leninists, so for me it basically means nothing, it's just not a word I find relevant in the first place.

But I understand how that word have meaning in your perception of things.

(btw I edited my message)

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SnowCode wrote (edited )

However, and honestly maybe there is a simply a discrepancy in how I imagine lifestyliststs (idk... I'm picturing people who wear fuck the government shirts and have all the right tattoos? who don't really care about engaging with anarchism in a communal sense?? maybe I'm just so off) -- I do believe that creative thinking and rethinking and growth is vital in any situation where anarchy is the goal

Oh that helped me better understand what you meant by that. Yes I agree but people who just want to call themselves anarchists for the style of it aren't anarchists imo. Just like someone that would claim to be opposed to authority while themselves being an authority over people, isn't anarchist either, they're just hypocrite.

I think we basically agree but just have different definitions of the same terms, what you sometimes describe as lifestylist is what I would just call hypocrisy for instance.


Also about the thing of people claiming to be not monogamous but not doing it, I just have a thought on it. In my case we've said that with my lover, yet I never had sex with anyone else than my lover (so far), saying you're not monogamous doesn't mean you have sexual relationships with other people. It just means you don't value monogamous as being fulfilling in a relationship.

It basically means that if one of us have sex with someone else, that is OK (however sometimes things get complicated in a relationship so if/when anything feels "off" for any of us, we just talk about it)

Communication is basically our only real commitment in a certain sense (while for others it might be monogamy, etc)

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SnowCode wrote

Yes I saw your edit :)

However I don't think this count as "deconstruction" at all, if one change nothing in their way of thinking, communicating, etc; how can one claim to have deconstructed anything in the first place?

I can hardly see deconstruction and re-building as being two separate actions, to me re-building is the act of deconstruction itself.

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SnowCode wrote (edited )

I see. That wouldn't really be what I would call "inefficency", that's closer to straight up hypocrisy tbh.

In the case I was talking about, I was thinking about a friend of mine (that might actually see this message at some point idk), who was basically seen as inefficient because he didn't want to conform to the group (those so called "anarchists" there actually are just plain assholes and hypocrites claiming to be anarchists but acting in the absolute opposite way with people part of their group)

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SnowCode wrote

Oh OK. Can you give an example of that?

What I meant by deconstructing norms and stuff is all for being able to communicate more clearly and improve relationships (for instance, when you let go of the norms about how a romantic relationship should look like, then you are able to communicate more clearly to people you love and thus have much better and healthier relationships).

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SnowCode wrote

The problem is more that those people because they are seen as "anarchist heros", get to decide what is good and radical and what isn't for everyone else.

when you experience them dismantling all the oppressive / toxic structural elements of their lives and then stopping there

Could you tell me more about this? I don't really understand how you can deconstruct norms and structures without rebuilding at the same time tbh.

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SnowCode wrote (edited )

Yes, or sometimes they do action but in kind of "martyrdom" manner and blame (and sometimes also bully) their fellow "comrades" (that they certainly won't call friends) for not being "useful" enough.

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SnowCode wrote

Well, people put a difference between 'comrade' and friends, and usually there is often a weird hero worship of dead old white men. Especially among many people in french speaking circles i've encountered that claimed to be anarchists. There's quite a shit ton of people insulting other anarchists of "lifestylist" for not being efficient and productive enough for anarchism.

This is all far too common from what I've seen.

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