Moltres

Moltres wrote

You seriously don't read, do you?

Over the last 800,000 years atmospheric CO2 levels as indicated by the ice-core data have fluctuated between 170 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv), corresponding with conditions of glacial and interglacial periods. The Vostok core indicates very similar trends. Prior to about 450,000 years before present time (BP) atmospheric CO2 levels were always at or below 260 ppmv and reached lowest values, approaching 170 ppmv, between 660,000 and 670,000 years ago. The highest pre-industrial value recorded in 800,000 years of ice-core record was 298.6 ppmv, in the Vostok core, around 330,000 years ago. Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased markedly in industrial times; measurements in year 2010 at Cape Grim Tasmania and the South Pole both indicated values of 386 ppmv, and are currently increasing at about 2 ppmv/year.

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Moltres wrote

all but impossible to produce through human activity alone.

Only you has said that, I haven't said it, no scientist has said that, mofongo even listed lots of things that has affected the climate change we're seeing. You should look back on that.

Only two entities benefit from the belief that only CO^2 emissions cause climate change. The first is the government because they can use as an election platform, make policies that barely do anything and don't affect the bottom line of the oil giants, look as good guys and ultimately prevent any revolt. The second one are oil companies because then they don't have to deal with the other practices, say deforestation, assassination, oil spills, war, etc, etc. Of course, they can lobby down any regulation that they don't like and propose changes that they have already made for profit in disguise of "progress".

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Moltres wrote

Very good, Daniel! You're able to keep your previous believes despite evidence of the contrary, so scientist of you!

I just want you to know that you're a very good skeptic and very capable thinker, not at all a contrarian. It doesn't matter that your beliefs align with the establishment you hate so much, not at all. So keep it up sir/madam and godspeed.

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Moltres wrote

Do you mean that climate is a system composed of many parts that CO^2 is nothing but a part? Then what is the importance of CO^2?

Could it be that its raise was the initial trigger event?

Could it be that is the one most easily and conveniently dealt with? Coal and oil

What sort of thing humans use that produce CO^2 that could possibly be regulated? Coal and oil

Is there any part of the establishment that could be harmed by such regulations? Coal and oil

If there are, they would have to be huge corporations with lots of money to be able to affect public policy and opinion? Coal and oil

So powerful and so entrenched in the establishment that they could convince governments to go to war for their prime matter! Coal and oil

What kind of business has such interests, such money and power? Coal and oil

NO! It's something more sinister! The sunlight panel industry! It makes sense, too! All cars run on solar panel.

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Moltres wrote (edited )

Welcome to a new episode of Use your own understanding!!!

Take this sentence:

CO2 is not some magical material that can insulate the Earth like a blanket, it is a gas. The ideal gas law and math still apply.

And answer the following:

  • Why is the earth hotter than the moon, which is closer to the sun?

  • Why is Venus significantly hotter than the earth?

  • Can gas get heated? If it does, what happens?

  • Do different gases have different physical properties? What do physics say? What does your science high school teacher say?

  • Are you even out of high school?

  • Are you smarter than a fifth grader?

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