Nope, you shouldn't worry. They have no footage of you concealing and therefore no proof. You got away before the cops showed up and now you're home safe. Not much they can do now. The police didn't catch you there with the merch. It's a lost cause for them. Don't even worry. In the event the police came to your door, (which they won't..they're not going to go through that effort) you don't have to talk to them anyway.

Same thing happened to me recently (police called etc.). I was worried sick for about 5 days and then the feeling went away.

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Thanks for the guide. Do you have any experience doing this method using fake expensive purses?

You have big balls lmao. I wouldn't attempt this method myself but I'll just offer my opinion anyway. Sorry if it's not too useful.

It sounds like you fill the duffel bag at the last possible second which is good. I wouldn't walk around the store with the full duffel bag at any point because the moment you fill it is the moment LP is going to be on high alert if they see you.

Maybe try to rub dirt on some of the letters of the plates so LP can't snap a pic and identify your vehicle.

I think with this method you're bound to get caught eventually. I would be really concerned you don't have a getaway vehicle. What are you going to do if LP pursues you on foot and they're faster than you? How are you going to get away before the cops show up? Maybe a getaway bicycle would be good?

All I can say is don't do this near a police station. If a police cruiser can show up in under 5 minutes you're screwed.

Bike theft is going to be risky literally anywhere...everyone knows they get stolen. You are better off just reselling shit and buying the damn thing.

Or buy a second hand stolen bike at a pawn shop or kajiji and then paint it a different colour...

What if the LP is following from a distance and you feel you have a bit of time to leg it to your vehicle and get away before he reads the plates? Is it better to try to get the hell out of there with a vehicle than roam around on foot when he's probably already called the police and they're on the way?

Yeah don't do it. They have all your information and you'll have to claim the income on your taxes too.

Had the same thing happen to me recently only mine was an even closer call. You will feel like shit and worried for a few days and then the feeling will pass when you realize you got away with it.

I almost got caught recently and my confidence is shattered now. Now I'm feeling iffy about even the stores I used to hit frequently without problems at. I just got caught so off guard by LP that I'm not even sure about my skills anymore and I'm just wondering if it was just luck all along. So I can relate.

I'll go back to stores if I didn't do a walkout. But a walkout definitely burns it IMO. They might have your face in the office from a prior lift and call police before you even start shopping the next time you're in. Then boom they catch you before you even know what's going on.

Did it work?

Good luck. Try not to let the cameras get a good look at your face.

Very high probability they investigate. That's a significant loss. Wear a good disguise and be prepared your pic is going to end up somewhere.

Do it after dark and bike away from there once you get out like your life depends on it.

But you're gonna get noticed and possibly end up in the local news. So prepare for that. Wear a disguise. And don't even think about going back after.

Yeah my luck ran out fast using this method even on a busy day so I just wanted to share my experience.

The advice I'll give that I'm now following after almost getting caught is that if there are cameras above, assume someone is watching. A walkout is when I almost got caught. If you do a walkout, the store is burned. Whereas a blind aisle conceal is a much safer bet. But I still won't go back with regularity to any stores with cameras anymore. And I'll stage some hauls ahead of time and get it later. And be very careful with the parking situation/plates.

Just always keep your senses sharp and don't get too comfortable. Be on active lookout for anyone that looks at you or seems to be LP (they're often in plain clothes) whilst also appearing as normal as possible to the cameras above. Don't let them see you do anything sus.

Grocery stores usually have LP (especially Wally) so be very careful with this. I wouldn't recommend loading up while walking around the store. That gives them a chance to track you and potentially call the cops before you even know what's going on. You should still use a blind spot to load up ideally close to the exit so you can make a quick escape. Make sure the coast is clear and then make a swift exit.

I'm not even gonna use this method at all anymore tho, cuz to me it's still considered a walkout and I had a close call. And if they see you once they could watch out for you the next time around.

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Getting sussed out is normal. It happens to me all the time (or so I think), but I never get caught. For makeup I found what works best is to wait until everyone is busy and then grab your items when no one sees you. Then go to the blind spot and conceal. Then go back and grab more when no one is looking and repeat. Just don't let those women working in cosmetics see you picking things up and then disappearing with them. They know women steal makeup.

Will that same method work against RF/AM tags and source tagging? Does the bag have to be 100% lined, like top/bottom/sides?

I've heard from someone who worked at Costco that they employ a lot of LP. On any given day there could be multiple plainclothes LP in the store. For that reason alone I would say it's a bad idea.

Hmm, I've never tried that personally. I personally just use the good ole' concealment method. I take what I want to the blind spot and then in the purse it goes. A thin t-shirt goes on top to hide what's in the purse. And I typically don't buy anything either. I "shop" with a cart if needed and then I conceal and leave the cart in a blind spot and out I go. The less time I spend in there, the better in my opinion.

My lifting purse at the moment is just a plain and basic black rectangular purse I got years ago probably from an H&M or something. It is semi-structured. When it's full, you can sort of see it's full. But when I first walk into the store, I hold it under my arm in such a way as not to flatten it and avoid making it appear empty. The purse is one big compartment inside with no zippers to mess with. It just has a clasp closure that I don't bother using. Everything goes in quickly. My bag is a medium size and I could probably go a bit bigger without looking too sus but this bag has served me very well. It fits a surprising amount.

Here is a tip I use every time: Carry in your bag a thin t-shirt. Take the t-shirt out and fill the bag to the brim with goods, then place the t-shirt on the top of the bag to hide what's inside. Not having to zip up the bag or anything means you're going to be able to get a lot in there.

Tip #2: Don't carry anything in your purse (ID, wallet, phone). If you must, carry those on your body. In the event you ever get caught and they try to grab your purse or something, you can just ditch the purse and run.

Well to be fair, most of the things he lifts that he mentioned are probably concealable. If he's working with a partner who can carry around a purse, it's likely that many of the things he lifted are doable. Larger items could be doable with some knowledge about the store, preplanning, social engineering and a partner. I've no idea how you would get away with furniture but I've been in a furniture store before with ZERO cameras; there were several associates on the floor though.