JesusNachosForever

JesusNachosForever wrote

Most people in specialty stores come in with a purpose and tend to focus on one or two areas intently and ignore the rest of the store. Anyone wandering aimlessly from aisle to aisle is going to be an immediate red flag. The fake phone call thing isn't the smoothest option, as often contact with your face causes the screen to wake. On top of that, I have decent enough hearing, I can hear the average phone call response from a few feet away, though with little clarity. Like those folks at the restaurant in Kiev. I bet every one of us could pick out a fake phone call if put to the test, its bad, and you're not an actor.

Secondly, selection and concealment is a big part of the "steps" most LP use to make a stop. The longer you take, the worse your odds are. As a rule, If I didn't have my items concealed within a few minutes from my entry time, I bailed. Don't give them time to record/tail you. Walk with purpose, be discreet, and know your environment.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Keep in mind when you're out appropriating merchandise : LP/AP will often use the CCTV to follow your steps in reverse, up to the moment you pull in the lot.

They do this for the reason you give above, thinking you're burned, you left your car behind. In my former days of retail hell, I often used this exact method to track folks who ran off property since I was at a location that was nearly unreachable without a car.

Then I'd either give it to cops , if they successfully boosted, and they'd keep an eye on the car throughout the day, or if they dropped our shit, I'd leave a nice note on the windshield letting them know and they should expect to hear from me soon. (I never actually followed through, but it seemed to reduce repeat offenders.

So yea, treat your approach to a location with the same care as your exit. Or don't.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

First thing, theyre not rfid, they contain no info on the item except in rare cases. They're basically either on or off.

The tags are almost always near the bar code. Otherwise cashiers would have to memorize where every tag is located.

Most tags can be located with Itty bitty neodymium magnets. The magnet will actually stick to the tag through most packaging. If left stuck in place, This will also interfere with the tag's signal, preventing the gate from going off. They're extremely hard to see on camera and don't require opening or tampering with the package.

Practice finding tags on a few packages at home. The 1/4" cube N52s work well for this and are insanely cheap for a dozen. They're inexpensive enough to replace allowing you to discard them if you're at risk of being caught.

To be extra sure, a flat metal tack pushed through most sticker tags permanently disables them and is nearly impossible to observe.

People have been trying booster bags for two decades and I've never heard anything except grief. Not to mention, they're a huge giveaway to LP and almost always lead to an extra charge. Just don't.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Yes. I used the same homemade magnet I actually used to make the illustration guide back in my to_Tse.co-m days. It's a part of every alarm tag how-to at this point, even here.

4 very thin N52 neodymium magnetics electrical taped together. Maybe 1/2x1x1/8 inches total. Cost me all of 6 bucks to make including shipping.

I wouldn't haven't have risked using a real tool, there's no plausible deniability if caught.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

IANAL.

No decent lawyer will touch this, but you can try.

Not saying you haven't been done wrong, but it's a unlikely a judge or jury is going to be sympathetic and award you damages.

Best bet is a billboard personal injury lawyer, if anyone.

Be forewarned, they may use your appearance in court as an opportunity to arrest you for robbery (usually use of physical contact of any type) or charge you for petty larceny at the least.

Then they'll have all your details, send a civil demand letter, and who knows what else.

Enjoy your anonymity and freedom. A quick buck versus a criminal history isn't with it. If I had a choice over 5k or a clean slate, it's a no brainer.

Best of luck.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Sort of.

Means they couldn't stop you for whatever reason, whether they missed a step, or discovered after the fact.

Then each time you get away, they tally up the losses. Once you hit your state's felony limit they will try way harder to catch you, including calling the cops when they first see you enter.

Never assume getting out is the same as getting away Scott-free.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Yes.

Here's how to tell if there will be more LP : Is the location typically busy at that time, probably.

Also, keep in mind, LP staff seem to work the first hour the store is open, TYPICALLY. That's when reports from the previous day are run, and I remember being told by more than LP in my history "Shoplifters/unemployables don't wake up early"

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JesusNachosForever wrote

There are various tags used for LP.

You may have encountered one of the smaller THIS ITEM INTENDED FOR SALE BY (STORE NAME) Usually with a number or website to report. Those are typically to discourage mom and pop stores from buying them and making ORC easier to trace.

If its a blank square with raised lines and a metallic edge, THAT'S the one that's gonna set off alarms.

Only worry about the thicker metal backed sticker, the other sticker is just proof it was theirs. And if you're getting busted, that point is moot.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Blurays, PS4 & Xbox games/accessories, portable hard drives, thumb drives/sd cards, and babies.

All can be unloaded in no time at local game/movie stores, and cheap drives and sd cards fly off craigslist/ebay/etc.

I look for a size v cost analysis, keeping in mind ease of resale. I didn't want anything at my place for more than a few hours.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Look, clothes that look like a costume will draw attention. If you can do business clothes without standing out, I'd encourage you to do so. When I was active, that was my go-to. A 30ish aged white guy in a shirt and tie isn't as attention grabbing as a 20 year old with a backpack. Looking like you have money and intend to spend is a plus.

But when it comes down to it, some LP are experts, and no clothes are going to save you from looking like a shady fuck.

Good luck.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

Sure that might work ONCE. Then they'll find the spiderwrap, find the footage of you dumping it sometime in the last 30 days and review footage and capture your image and possibly license plate. Then they start case building. Since you used a tool you'll be a higher priority. Hell, maybe they'll send it off to their lab and pull prints.

It's more risk than I'd ever accept. Being able to return to the same location is a definite benefit.

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JesusNachosForever wrote

You can't outrun the telephone my friend. Fences and hard paths with a ps4? It's not impossible, but I would be my freedom on 200$ boost.

Grab 6 new Xbox games, open em up, maybe a smudge on the edge of the disc and trade the disc to to gamestahp. There's your ps4. With a receipt and warranty.

Unless you're Norman Reedus from Death Standing. Have at it then.

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