Jefferey

Jefferey wrote

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I don't agree. Society is an abstraction just as the individual is. Neither "exists" but both can be understood at the scale in which they are studied. Any conclusions drawn about one can not necessarily be applied to the other so I don't see the issue.

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Jefferey wrote

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In aggregate that's exactly what society is, at least from a sociological perspective. If someone is using a moral framework to determine if an individual is contributing to "society" then they aren't really talking about society at all. Instead they are referring to a project through which society as it exists can be remade.

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Jefferey wrote

This is an oversimplification, but western countries staved of insurrectionary and revolutionary conditions through wealth redistribution and massive social spending. However, this was not done with good intentions as social democrats tend to believe.

Instead, such spending intentionally built up the racial wealth gap which had the effect of atomizing the working class and thus stabilized economic hierarchies at large. It also killed any internationalist tendencies western workers may have had which ultimately gave western capitalists the freedom to carry out their imperialist projects unopposed.

I also think modern neoliberalism is in part an effort made to reclaim much of that lost wealth now that global capitalism permeates most of the world's economies. However, that has had the effect of recreating many of the conditions present in the prewar period. Maybe not to the same degree, but the rise of the left and the far right is evidence of that.

What remains to be seen is if western capitalists can find a way to stabilize current social and civil unrest even as economic inequality continues to rise.

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