Heywood_Floyd

Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

Don't you though? Isn't that what this is all about, besides the ToS violation that I didn't know I was doing? You think I'm bullying the guy when a) I haven't seen him in six-or-so years, b) he left Wikipedia's WMF for a better job elsewhere, c) I haven't heard a peep from him since. Hell, before I wrote that line I hadn't thought about Alexander in years, because he hasn't been part of the Wikipedia crowd for a long while. That's why it's a throwaway line.

(Of the people with any power at that 2016 conference, both James Alexander (their event security chief) and Kirill Lokshin (the head of the conference) have since dropped out of Wikipedia entirely.)

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

He's not "inferior", he was part of the machine, a paid Wikipedian. Also, he bugged out of Wikipedia-land years ago, for all I know he lost every pound the minute he left Wikipedia's insane corporate culture. All I know is what I saw in 2016, and how he acted then; he was so colorless that sticking to how he looked was the only definition I could give him, he was that much of a non-entity.

As just told the other account, you are missing the blazing forest fire for the leaves that you are looking at.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

This is the line you are so wound up over: "James Alexander quit the WikiMedia Foundation, so I can't make fat computer nerd jokes about him anymore." This is what Alexander looked like at the 2016 conference: http://wikipedia-sucks-badly.blogspot.com/2016/10/pictures-from-wikiconference-san-diego.html . Your position is "oh this poor guy" when in reality, by being their "Trust and Safety" officer, he was their Wikipedia cop (and most organizations hire an ex-police detective or ex-police officer for that position.) His job was to bury any problems, which is why he banned 15 people. This didn't stop Andrew W. Morrow (banned user "Amorrow") from stalking certain female Apple employees (Morrow has been in-and-out of mental institutions in the greater San Francisco area for decades) during his tenure. You are looking at leaves, missing that they are attached to trees, in a forest, in the middle of a massive fire.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

I would love for you to have to deal with Jimmy Wales' employees and try to keep calm afterwards or not be willing to mock these self-important pseudo-academics. I am not "phobic" about his weight, it's a cheap running gag because what he looks like is the only thing that sticks out about him. Otherwise he's a droid who banned 15 people before running off to work for Twitter. Silicon Valley is packed to the brim with people like him.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote (edited )

Let me explain -- at the behest of a Wikipedia critic who lives in Northern California, I went down to the 2016 Wikiconference in the San Diego Public Library under an assumed name. Unfortunately the name I assumed was not happy about this and narked me out to the Wiki people. James Alexander was their chief of security, he tried to keep me from going into the library (which they were using a small amount of), to keep me from taking pictures of the attendees (which was the whole reason I was there). I was banned from Wikipedia by Alexander in a letter (I still have it) and put on their global ban list -- EVEN THOUGH I WAS NOT A WIKIPEDIAN. He had four assistants in this attempt to keep me out of a conference we had paid for in a public space where I was only there to take photos, maybe talk to some people like a journalist, and leave. It was utterly insane that they acted like this.

Now I had to use a cover name because I had been doxxed on a Wikipedia criticism forum(1) frequented by WikiMedia Foundation employees, and the guy in N. California could not attend because his name and face is known to them and they would have banned him from the event; the WMF did the same thing to Greg Kohs at a prior conference -- took his money, rejected him at the door, refunded him. It's like dealing with a private college that dislikes you -- they hustle you off the property, keep you from talking to their staff, have your photo on file (they have mine now). Alexander has since left the WMF, and I make no jokes about him now on the Wikipedia Sucks message board. The WMF still ban people like crazy.....because it's a cult.

  1. I had been a member of their group. I had joined to talk about abuses on Reddit (they weren't wild about that until I pointed out that certain key Wikipedia people were on Reddit now) and the drama about my use of their open off-topics forum built in this hidden back room for moderators on the forum, so I was kicked out and the chickenshit sysop leaked my info (email, real name) to the board's chief dickweasel who posted it. Ex-Wikipedians are like a cult outside the cult, very reminiscent of the groups former Scientologists run to keep doing "the tech" - FreeZone, iScientology, etc. No creativity like the ex-Scios who set up The Process Church of the Final Judgement, Eckankar, The Church of Man, etc.
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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

**Wikipedians being clique-y grad students is certainly an argument I can get behind, although fun fact, a number of the editors with the most activity work directly for the US government, with a few of them having open ties to the NSA if I remember correctly. And that's not even mentioning the 8chan guy! **

Could you give us a source for these claims? This wouldn't just be people like MONGO (ex-Federal Forest Ranger, then DSA guy)? We know all about him.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

".....Apparently Azov have been neo-Nazis since 1991? How they could be I don't know, when the group was only formed in 2014, but I will say the only people I can imagine who are worse than Nazis are time traveling Nazis, so they must a decent target for the author....."

On October 16, 1991 a party called the "Social-National Party of Ukraine" was founded in what was still the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Their "Latin I through a Latin N" insignia standing for the "Ideal of the Nation" was concocted around that time as a swastika replacement because the SNP-U was a hard-core Nationalist party with neo-Fascist politics. It had an underground existence until 1992, was registered as a political body in 1995. It was disbanded in 2004, replaced with the now well-known Svoboda Party, but there was the Social-National Assembly (f. 2008) that used the "Ideal of the Nation", and just like the SNP-U it used the same I-N wolfsangle symbol on a yellow field. Spinoff or dissidents from the SNP-U keeping the old flag, but this group birthed the Azov Battalion (now a "Special Operations Detachment") and the defunct "Patriot of Ukraine" paramilitary group. In any case the Azov patch is the I-N wolfsangel, the Nazi Sonnenrad ("sun wheel"), and a breaking surf wave, symbolizing that they will break over their opponents like the ocean on a rock. To me it's all one giant rightwing organization using various party formations to hide who they really are, the same damn neo-Nazis from the end of the USSR. And the US is now backing these hooligans.

https://reportingradicalism.org/en/hate-symbols/movements/nazi-symbols/wolfsangel

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

Oh yay, it's the guy who never posts and only comments!

"Honestly, as far as I can tell the only thing the blog consistently stands for is that everything Wikipedia does is wrong, so I assume it's pro-religious right wingers removing files."

Wikipedia is a hackjob that demolished the non-hackjob encyclopedia industry. Who needs religious-right cranks removing files when they have their own crank Wikipedia, Conservapedia?

"....the fact that they don't have information on random obscure bank robbers is a problem...."

They are being judged by the standards of their own program, which is to include everything. They fail at that too.

"....I assume the various other nearly 15 year old IRC logs they've released are bad, but there's no commentary, no formatting, nothing at all to suggest what I should even look for. As far as I can tell, the biggest problem is that they are mostly casual conversations, and people don't take the conversations seriously enough? I feel like the audience for unedited, unformatted IRC logs that are 10-15 years old is approaching 0, but respect for collating them I suppose?"

The person who originally had these up online was forced to take them down by JImbo Wales himself, I was given them, so as revenge on Jimbo and his dingbats, they are posted at random from time to time. They prove that Wikipedians as a whole are just grad students without thesis to write. Nobody should give the Wikimedia Foundation a dime.

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