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F_x wrote

ITS: we kill people indiscriminately!

Atassa: let's write about and support ITS!

Most people: eco-fascists!

manc: stop calling what you don't like fascism!

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F_x wrote

If things aren't written explicitly you don't understand the point being made. From one fascism to eco-fascism. People never change.

An american magazine translating ITS' communiqué and siding with eco-fascist ideologies. It's a waste of time for everyone but as long as you reply I'll do the same. Fascists shouldn't be welcomed here.

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F_x wrote

Atassa wrote about "fuck western morality, we kill whomever without discrimination, free the wild!" and compares themselves with Creeks that extreme violence and rape is fine because it's in line with their tradition, "we don't believe in western morality here! the native were doing it so it's cool".

Not going to talk about all the people that wrote in Atassa, I'm focusing on the thing you say isn't true.

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F_x wrote (edited )

Far from being acts of gratuitous or extraordinary violence, what occurred at Fort Mims was well within the cultural and spiritual logic of traditional Creek culture.

As a movement to return to the traditional ways of living, the Creeks had to follow their traditions that demanded the violent death of their enemies.

These are Cabrera own words based on information he gets from historians.

How is that not apologia when what happened at Fort Mims included rape and slaughtering children? Why is it included along with ITS stuff without criticism if not because that's what they associate with?

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F_x wrote

Everything is translate so no, it's not going to be directly from them but it's written by Cabrera who support ITS. It's an historical account written by Cabrera (with some quotes from their sources) with their opinions and rape apologia because "tradition".

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F_x wrote

Atassa #1 page 91-94, apologia for rape because of tradition. Also if they don't give a shit about killing random people they obviously don't care about rape.

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F_x wrote

Why do you defend ITS and why do you think it's fine to give them a platform?

Like I said, I don't know why she said those things but ITS doesn't seem to have a problem with rape. So she seem to have a point as you keep defending them.

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F_x wrote

I wasn't there in 2016.

Genocide advocate, i mean, you do love your ITS. Won't speak for the rest but ITS stands for really fucked up things.

Calling people name isn't lying, i mean if someone says you are a piece of shit, you aren't a literal shit.

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F_x wrote

I guess they aren't italians so they can't be fascist right? Killing random people in the name of "the greater good", is quite fascistic. Random people being anyone but themselves.

What shit was made up about you?

As far as I know it's not a podcast, it's someone mentioning an incident. Where do you get that Clouds is a serial liar?

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F_x wrote

There is a difference between giving fascists a platform and reading/criticising their shit. Oh no not the sacred books!

How do you know that it's not real? What history of make up shit?

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F_x wrote

The purist part I was refering to:

Lots of anarchists have been pissed at LBC ever since because, you know, nothing says 'anarchy' like telling other anarchists what they can and can't say.

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I've asked for sources more than once and never got anything.

Except speaking to both? people involved I don't know how you will get the answer you are looking for.

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F_x wrote

Someone that think an anarchist publisher should publish ITS because eco-fascism is anarchy and wannabe "purist"(anti-fascist) are ruining it for all. Also not believing transphobia accusation because nobody wrote about it online.

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F_x wrote

Darda was the one opening the discussion, was class reductionist, ban evading, and in bad faith since the beginning. Even though I disagree with your concern for boomers, I'm pretty sure it was more for the reasons above than because you are an older member.

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F_x wrote

I have no problem with double standard between users, if you mean between admins and the rest then I agree. Just take actions as you see fit. People can just come back with alt and nobody will know.

What I've noticed aren't mistake, it's transphobia and people defending themselves instead of apologising and learning. Give me one user that Clouds kept engaging with that wasn't an asshole. All I can think is u/lori and Clouds disengaged (as far as I've seen).

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