Defasher

Defasher OP wrote

Most of the stuff you mentioned wasn't posted to the thread until after I linked to it on r/@ and caused the discussion there to take off. When I linked to it, it was almost exclusively filled with brocialism. Unfortunately I don't have an archive that represents that timeframe.

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Defasher OP wrote (edited )

This is the post it was in response to, since deleted:

https://archive.fo/YtzD1

This comment especially:

[–]Drunk_King_Robert Anarcho-Communist

These people exist right now! We've just come out of a global recession, the recovery is only helping the top-end-of-town and instead of getting people excited about a brighter tomorrow we're getting bogged down in the liberation of minorities. Nobody will be liberated under capitalism.

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Defasher OP wrote

I've convened with the other tribal elders in the invite-only #raddle.tribe matrix and after much deliberation, we've realised there's only one way to proceed with the uncivilise the left raddle project.

This is how it's gonna work.

You have 2 choices.

You either reply to this post swearing fealty to anarcho-primitivism by reciting the official anprim oath or...

You get banned from the site and have all your old posts amended with the following disclaimer:

[User clings to civilisation, please disregard opinion]

Swear fealty now or be outcast from the tribe.


THE OFFICIAL ANPRIM OATH

In brightest day, in blackest night, No techno-fetishist shall escape my sight. Let those who worship civilisation's might, Beware my power… Anarcho-Primitivism's light!


This is a lifelong oath. All tribe members must recite it in a public place at least 9 times a day so at least 5 people hear it.

Oathbreakers will be cannibalized as is anprim custom.

Announce you've gone full anprim or suffer the consequences.

You may also explain why you despise civilisation, and outline what you plan to do to tear it down.

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Defasher OP wrote

But what would be the point of life if we couldn't communicate with each other?

The point of life is to communicate with each other..? If that's the case then we've failed big time.

But do we actually communicate with words? It feels like we miscommunicate. We so desperately try to express ourselves, to understand each other, and we completely fail at it. We lie to ourselves and to each other constantly in order to be able to live with the constant gnawing isolation we feel every second of every day all in the name of making a connection with another human and for what?

...So we can stroke each other's egos pretending we're connected and on a shared journey; a union of 2 distinct beings that understand each other? We don't. We don't understand each other. The only thing we're sharing is our desperation to not be alone. We're not connected. We're not united. Our needs only match when we compromise to avoid further isolation.

Everything we've evolved to be came from our innate need to express ourselves

Why do we need to express ourselves in a way that other people will understand? Why does me expressing myself have to be designed towards the benefit of others? Why must my thoughts need to be constantly re-interpreted into words in order to express them to other people in a way that they can understand them?

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Defasher OP wrote

Being more detailed would limit the conversation. That's another problem with words; they're too limiting. They force you to narrow everything down to specific pre-determined scenarios that people can readily envision instead of abstract ideas that might exist outside our sphere of understanding. How can we see past our layers upon layers upon layers of bullshit civil conditioning if we can't allow ourselves to envision an existence that isn't predicated on the exchange of ideas and the growth of the human knowledge pool? What if words; the exchange of ideas; communication; society is all a death spiral towards mass destruction?

Alternatives to words would still be forms of communication.

Only if you think of alternatives that are designed to communicate.

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Defasher OP wrote (edited )

rational constructed languages

Please explain what that is. How can something artificially constructed be rational?

language reform

Like u/languagebot tried to do? Look what a clusterfuck that was. Dictating language to people just fuels reactionaries because it allows them to point at us and say '"look, sjws are ruining SOCIETY!" And 98% of the population are going to be naturally resistant to change, so rather than change their language, they'll just hop on the fash train.

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