Datardaci
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
You're the one who love mental gymnastics <3 .
But my point still holds true :) working for someone is not slavery
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
No, because Lisa can deny it and prevent Albert from doing it/defend herself.
Albert can refuse to do it, If he thinks that he can defend himself against Javier
Datardaci wrote
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Yeah, I'm a troll, this is why no one has debunked what I am saying...
Datardaci OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Let's say that a fuckin terrorist asshole is mass shooting people.
It is not a crime to not shoot him, even If you had a gun.
Many obvious reasons why (you may be scared...etc)
Datardaci OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
The vilain Javier threatens Albert to do something for Lisa. Lisa isn't in the wrong, because she wasn't aware and even If she was aware but chose to not deny Albert to perform X action, doesn't mean that she is the evil one (she can be scared that Albert will be killed for instance etc.)
The vilain Javier is at fault, because he is the one threatening
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
The one who is in the wrong is the person threatening not the wife.
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
I mean, let's say that someone threaten Person A to do sexual acts with her wife. If the wife isn't aware how can she be at fault? Tbh, even If she is aware of it, she still isn't at fault for not denying it, because she is afraid that person A may die.
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by Majrelende in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Yes, BUT
The "masters" are only in the wrong If they are complicit/know what's going on.
The ones threatening to beat you are clearly in the wrong -> They are initiating violence.
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Please tell me why?
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
My life situation started in the trash. My life was garbage at the beginning. No one helped me.
Is it good, now?
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
It's theft, then :)
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
I don't believe in social darwinism.
I am just against the initiation of force
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Your friend will be the one held accountable, depending of what you call "creating the situation"
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
creating a situation where you will starve to death if you don't do what I ask you to do and you will call that voluntary.
Except that the person for whom you are working for isn't creating the situation
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
You are now litterally advocating theft, lol...
It escalated quickly :)
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
They are not denying relief.
Not helping you is not the same as initiating force.
you're setting yourself up as a target.
Maybe, but It doesn't mean that the haters are in the right
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
You can call your theft "seizure", but It is still theft
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Btw, I never said that there is no consequence, If you do morally dubious things.
But, we have to say it loudly : he is not initiating force
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted1196 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
I am not forced to lend/give you my property
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
I am not forced to lend them my stuff
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
Go ahead, but be careful to not be shot. It will be sad.
I don't want to harm her...
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
No, I don't agree. I am not forced to help/work for them, I am not forced to give them my property.
Datardaci OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by mofongo in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
It may be morally dubious, but you're not initiating force
Datardaci OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by Majrelende in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
My point still holds true, wage labour is voluntary.
Let's say that some guy, threatened me and said that I had to pay extortion fee/ransom money. I sell something (my computer/land...etc) to give the money to the thugs. I voluntarily sold my stuff, I decided to do it, I decided to react to the threat this way.
The thugs threatening me is the problem (and that's what isn't voluntary)
So, your problem now is the ethics of land ownership?
Datardaci OP wrote
Reply to comment by !deleted8205 in The real reason why working for someone IS NOT slavery by Datardaci
No, I was saying that not putting food on your mouth is not threatening/initiating violence against you