conquestoftoast

conquestoftoast wrote

Reply to comment by GlangSnorrisson in by !deleted20335

I was dealing with it with those people????? You’re the one who inserted themselves 🤷🏻‍♀️. Old drama isn’t old if it’s still continuing. I dunno what to tell you bud.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted30 in by !deleted20335

They stated elsewhere that they've been around a lot longer. The drama in question was pretty insular to a certain circle of people, and the friction ignited offsite, most people probably don't know about it which is like, whatever.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Reply to comment by GlangSnorrisson in by !deleted20335

I didn't jump in in bad faith. I legitimately hold those positions. Y'all seem to be more concerned with how I said something rather than what I said. I'm sorry the cussing offends your fragile sensibilities but you dont get to write me off as a troll just because you don't like that I drop the f-bomb every now and again. Furthermore, I had dropped the discussion after it came to its end, and for a group of folks so concerned about misogyny and hostility towards women, its more and more clear those concerns end the moment theres a personality conflict. Which kinda proves my initial point on the other thread about peoples concerns about hostility just being performative. But here we are.

Hope I responded in a more acceptable way for you this time.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted20335 in by !deleted20335

Oh hey you do know how to tag! Good for you! Let me go ahead and address this since you seem to be like really intent on painting me as somehow "anti-woman".

In order:

  1. Never stated that bloodrose was doing it for an ego trip, and while that may seem like splitting hairs, I was more referencing raddles tendency to just outright agree with folks whove been around for awhile despite having garbage takes. Bloodrose had a garbage take, and for the record I don't believe theyre doing it for an ego trip.

  2. Ziq has a past of being a complete fuckhead on stuff when trying to reign in power or eschew responsiblity. Maybe that's changed, but my issue wasnt with them agreeing with bloodrose unless of course the original complaint is from bloodrose.

  3. They are. TW has a really god damn long history of being a thoughtful and earnest individual with a massive background in a variety of politics and is frankly one of only a few who actually gives a shit. It's really common for this site to paint people as black or white depending on what they think they can nitpick, and it appears to me to have just been a case of that. 2 years ago, bloodrose would have not made the position she had.

Sorry I didn't buy into the moral outrage and the quick tempered narrative to label something misogynist just because it was convenient. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, I didn't expend energy beyond that because it was clear to me that ya'll generally kinda suck.

To clear that up you didnt tag me, I came across the post and it was clear that you were reffering to me, because again, you're a coward. Passive aggressively shit talking someone isn't ignoring them, its positioning yourself above them for clout.

Don't make this about how I'm "attacking people for talking about misogyny", I just hold that accusation with a certain amount of respect and you're quick to jump on the bandwagon because you're a weasel. If it was actually misogyny I'd be just as outraged and attacking those that supported it, but calling white liberal feminism trash, isn't that venue.

You made the post joke or not, because you view me as beneath you, your issue isn't that im an example of the "hostility towards women of raddle", its because I'm hostile to women you agree with.

It's one thing to fling shit in a thread, but it is absolutely harassment to create space separated from context, to goad me. "They were mean so I'm mean" is the most childish bullshit I've read in a hot second and shows your clear inability to recognize contextual realities. Grow the fuck up, or shut the fuck up, either one would make you less insufferable.

Sidenote: sorry my tone isn't acceptable to you, I'm sure its just cemented my place on your "I support women but not those women" group.

Enjoy your superiority complex you fucking walnut.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Reply to by !deleted20335

Lol damn you’re really taking this personally aren’t you? Like I’m a petty mean bitch but this is a whole other level of pathetic.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Look maybe I came at you to intensely at first, and I'll own I shouldve kept my shit in check for another 5 minutes before jumping down the rabbit hole.

I left for a lot of reasons, and while a big portion of it was, like you pointed out, due to this site not giving a shit about trans women, it was also because the only people, with a few exceptions, I really respected also left. Galdra was pretty much the only person who made this site worth a damn.

Remind me again about what happened to clouds? Oh right she was banned.

I feel like I pretty clearly stated my case why I didn't believe it was misogyny, and not that you explicitly said this, but like my being trans doesnt make me less able to suss out and determine if something is misogyny or not. You mightve had a case if the person in question who died wasn't literally being discussed on a national scale and therefore different contextual elements need to be addressed.

I remember you being a lot more thoughtful and nuanced, but whatever all this is, isn't that. I stand by what i said, and I still believe you're reaching and that this entire thread was unnecessary and appears to me to just be another starting point to villainizing yet another trans person on here, because thats how all the others started.

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conquestoftoast wrote

RBG is symbolic and inherently tied to the systems she maintained, good bad or indifferent, you cant just seperate her as a person from the work that she did. In that same line, the folks who speak about her in various "common media" will not talk about what happens in the ICE detention center but will talk about RBG as a force for womankind or whatever weird ass horseshit thats being peddled. You trying to make this about pitting groups against each other when American media has already fucking chosen the white liberal narrative on all this is disingenuous at best, and intellectually dishonest at worst. You used to be way better than this. Do better, I'm not impressed.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Lol the only thing I did was accuse the people in this thread of being on an ego trip. That’s the only thing you got right. I didn’t deny misogyny matters? Nor did I accuse anyone of being on an ego trip for experiencing misogyny. If you reached any further you’d tap yourself on the shoulder. Y’all in here actively twisting my words and trying to gaslight me but I’m the one “doing harm”. Eat shit buttercup.

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