CogInTheMachine

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CogInTheMachine wrote (edited )

An AI won't resolve any conflict unless it is given despostic powers over global political bodies. Like making it a UN on steroids with fulll control over all the weapons and energy systems. Kinda like in that old sci-fi movie "Colossus".

And this is not a scenario anyone wants to have.

Beyond that, the "peace" methods recommended by this AI this liberal scientist wants to develop will most likely be used as an intelligent aid in pacifying people without resolving the underlying social contradictions.

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CogInTheMachine wrote

Furthermore, stupid liberal reformist groups like ATTAC have been trying to push the Tobin Tax for decades... And no that didn't work too well.

I guess that when a vast portion of the industry is robotized, they'll need us humans to keep the consumption levels going, so in that context they might come up with such a measure. But that'd be far-fetched.

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CogInTheMachine wrote (edited )

move to Mars with him and live in a biodome sipping potato wine with all the other VIPs while the Earth burns up

Is it too late to register for being a suicidal Mars guinea pig? I find it rather strange that some people would sacrifice themselves for some billionnaires fantasies... oh wait.

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CogInTheMachine wrote (edited )

My question whether it would be possible/feasible to organise private society in such a way that it makes government obsolete.

But of course that's possible. Not only possible, but necessary. As Machiavelli said, the basics you need to insure are the means to subsist for the people participating... So to say: 1- food and 2- (self-)defense. Black Panthers -agree with them or not- have understood this principle. Without this stuff, you're likely to not be taken seriously by newcomers.

I'd also say that providing with shelter is also equally important to food in big cities, if not more.

The funny games and relationships, they'll just follow as usual.

That's what we are still to bring to people, to prove that the "commune" can work. Broken windows don't feed, and not-so-convingly bring means of deterrence or defense, even tho they may build a power dynamic. You need some structures that provide with relevant forms of sustenance, so that some people may be tempted to abandon wage slavery or welfare for these ways of living.

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CogInTheMachine wrote (edited )

Sorry I don't do the tit-for-that style of commenting, RespectWomen. This is a forum tactic that fanatical White reactionaries have been doing for quite a while, so I won't take the bait. Either choose a different approach to online discussion, or else....

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CogInTheMachine wrote

Basically this is what MLs and other transitionnal commies have been into. Marx claimed that it would require a thousand years for the true communist society to be the dominant order.

The character O'Brien in 1984 told a similar thing.

Just keep working and wait in line as much as you want... supporting false political solutions and whatev.

The Commune is possible where you are. Why not just doing it, here and now?

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CogInTheMachine wrote (edited )

This laughable can full of straw men could also be called "Toward Anti-Antifa" and it wouldn't read that differently. It's basically standing in defense of an extremely authoritarian techno-scientific social order -like our current liberal democratic captialist order- that is still as I'm writing this, killing and oppressing countless non-human (and human) lives and melting the ice caps and glaciers. An order that, like the Third Reich, was doing it all in the name of the quest for progress, that will one day make the world a better place to live. Coz as you know it worked so well...

One day we will revive the coral reefs and all the extinct animal species, but in the meantime keep working hard for progress. It's like the capitalist mass consumer system and its industry is devoted to the betterment of life in general on this planet. Expect a Star Trek-like Type 1 civilization in a few decades with flying cars and space travel n shit if we trust Elon Musk hard enough.

The Regressive Leftist crowd just don't realize how abhorrent their own ideals are... how they are mindlessly thirsty for more blood and tears. This helps to be brandishing the same old Right-wing bogeymen so your can more safely put your own self-criticism in the closet...