BusinessGuy123

BusinessGuy123 OP wrote

The box cutter idea is great, the issue is some people might not have the ability to pick locks. A tried & true method is to use a pry-bar to break open basement windows & crawl through there. Basement windows normally just have a small plastic or metal latch you can easily break to slide the window open without needing to break the glass.

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But then you have to deal with the security system in this situation if it's wired. Hence the alarm system, however it's often easy to spot the white magnetic window sensor just by looking at the perimeter of the window. I'm surprised how many security companies neglect the basement windows. But if you're overweight this would automatically not be an option for you.

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Reply to comment by BigThief in by cman17012003

That is an impressive history, & I will submit. There is no point in me trying to 1 up you as I am able to accept you have much more knowledge & skill in your craft then myself.

Also when I say impressive I really do mean that. Most people would have gotten caught at that point & you have well passes the status of professional & entered into mastery.

So I know you might look down on me as some random ass guy trying to make money & talking about something he doesn't fully understand. Just trying to make my way in the world & I hope you can respect that.

I wish you the best of luck with whatever you do.

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BusinessGuy123 OP wrote

Well I never mentioned stealing the ink aside from saying I do not support it.

However lets play around with your situation for a moment. You can sell ink anonymously, put a bogus mailing address, I could pay in Bitcoin, Litecoin, on Monaro if you wanted meaning payments would also be anonymous, & there would be virtually no link back to you.

You could probably hit a store 3 times, places like Staples & Office Depot don't have loss prevention. Assuming you've got 6 - 12 in major cities & you make $50 per ink you're talking about making $4,000 per city which you could run though in about 3 - 4 days. You could make more if you're willing to hit up Walmart & other more risky stores. But in your hypothetical situation, you get $50 per ink, you get 3 per store, & can hit the same place 3 times on average, with an avergae of 9 stores you're talking about making $4,000 in a few days. Doesn't sound like pennies on the dollar to me, sounds like good payment for cash up front no questions asked.

Then you could also travel across the country while getting paid handsomely. Get a car, download Airbnb & explore your great country. How many people get the opportunity to make money & travel the country legit making about $200,000k year grabbing easy items available at stores without LP?

However since you very clearly want to steal ink & I cannot reasonably believe you would act in good faith & obtain it though legitimate means, should I receive an email at IIX1X1XII@protonmail.com from you or anyone claiming to be you I will not respond to it as to avoid being a party in illicit activities. The example above was only to entertain your idea & in no way represents the intended business model I am proposing.

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Reply to comment by BigThief in by cman17012003

Well I was friends with a loss prevention officer, my neighbor worked in the industry for like a decade so I got a lot of my knowledge from first hand accounts, can you say the same?

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Reply to comment by GoodOldWorkingClass in by cman17012003

I live in Canada so my experience with LP might be different, my neighbor worked in loss prevention for a long time before switching jobs & we talked a lot. He had no clue about my history, so it was kinda funny but at that point I had already stopped for quite some time.

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BusinessGuy123 OP wrote

Your right it would be hard for me to know if it's been obtained legally. However what happens when you buy something on Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, or Amazon private listings, you have no way to know those items aren't stolen unless there is an indication towards that conclusion. So the accepted assumption is to act in good faith that you are dealing with a legitimate person.

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BusinessGuy123 OP wrote

Whoa, thats a big jump. I'm just trying to make it clear this is to help people get out of crime, not make a fuck ton of money with it. With all my disclaimers you would really think I'm trying to pay people people butt loads of money on a consistent basis for stolen ink like some sort of fence?

I just want to respect peoples privacy & give them the chance to make money legally ya?

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

I like to think that I'm playing 4d chess here, but listen to this full post before commenting.

Trump is an agent of Antifa & he doesn't even know it.

What does America get with Joe Biden? An establishment politician who will pander only to the extent to keep us on his side. Whereas Trump was destroying the establishment, he was causing chaos in the political elite & during his tenure we saw a massive boost in the popularity of the populist left, & a wide spread support from the democrat party.

I feel that if Trump won he would have beaten the establishment to death & the democrat party would have fully been replaced with progressives giving our movement much more power & influence to change the system in 4 years. Now we're stuck with a shit Joe Biden who will probably just cause people to vote republican in the next election OR win a second term & now the american antifa movement is set back 2 elections rather then just 1.

What are your thoughts on this?

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Them just "disbanding" is too good a fate for them. What now? They go to their suburban homes to live a comfortable life after supporting a nazi movement? Maybe going to patrol youtube in their parents basement. These guys got off too good in my eyes, people who support these neo-nazi movements need to be made an example of

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Reply to comment by cman17012003 in by cman17012003

Use your home phone & dial *67 before the number.

So lets say their number is 1-800-484-2374 just fill it in like this on your home phone: *6718004842374 then call & it will make it a no caller id call. This is a great trick I would use when prank calling when I was like 12 lol

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

Reply to by cman17012003

You'll probably be fine, I would actually call the loblaws with no caller id enabled & ask to be put on the phone with loss prevention.

Tell them "Hey I was shoplifting food & a cake for my moms birthday (2 day ago for example) & I was given the option to leave. I just want to apologize firstly for stealing, I don't have a lot of money, secondly I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to leave & not calling the police. I've been sick to my stomach the past few days & I promise I will never shoplifting again in my life."

Try to make it sound sincere, trust me this is the best method. I want to say you're already 100% in the clear, but I highly recommend doing this as if they are doing any investigation they will almost instantly drop it & maybe even invite you to pick up your stuff that was left behind. You will also make the loss prevention officers day, they don't get the see the "good" side of doing loss prevention & this will boost their ego & make them feel like a saint for turning your life around.

I know the feeling of having that sickness in your stomach, it sucks but in a weird way it's also fun, knowing stuff is on the line & all that. But when you call make sure to use your own words, talk slowly, & DO NOT read a script, people can pick up on that. This has to be authentic & from the heart. Best of luck man.

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BusinessGuy123 wrote

There are also ways to mitigate your risk once caught. Like of course run, maybe fight your way out of it. I feel like if their trying to restrain you & you only fight to the extent to escape it'll be VERY unlikely that you'll be convicted for assault as they'll be the once who initiated physical content. These steps can further reduce your odds of getting in trouble once caught.

Let's say just running or saying no gives you a 90% chance of getting away once caught which is about right as most loss prevention are discouraged from physical contact or aren't paid enough to try & prevent you from leaving aside from saying stop & come with us. Then maybe fighting your way out of it physical situation is 50/50 odds of escape, so the likelihood of escape once caught goes to about 95% which is the best you'll get.

However stores like Home Depot have beefy security & very physical loss prevention. You could increase your escape chances by avoid these stores. There are a million factors you can optimize you enhance your probability of not getting caught & then of escaping once caught.

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