BigThief

BigThief OP wrote

Reply to comment by Baadbadsheep in Answers to questions by BigThief

This sounds nice and simple... Have you ever shipped a thousand packages?

Fuck shipping a million parcels:

  1. Setup an eCommerce site to sell this shit.
  2. Pay merchant fees for for single dollar sales.
  3. Order boxes, tape, and labels plus all the infrastructure to process this volume of material.
  4. Rent commercial space for inventory and shipping.
  5. Deal with county, state, and federal taxes due every quarter.
  6. Have insurance for all this shit.
  7. You sure as hell are going to need staff.
  8. Fuck all this... No one is selling a million S3 keys.

You would never make profit on this enterprise in the US. Your labor costs alone will kill you. The frustration would make me smoke all day and get nothing done.

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BigThief wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted34514 in by !deleted34514

BOLO = be on the look out.

Pretty safe to say if nothing came back on your after 18 months you should be good.

If you are lifting a couple grand every single week then you should always be concerned.

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BigThief wrote

What the fuck are you talking about... please reply with said post history.

I post how I do things and I explain why.

Also, your posting history just seems to be you shaming others for not lifting how you do. Its a lot of hot air about how you believe X or Y isn't good because of some flimsy morals.

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BigThief wrote

I never said to feel bad for Walmart managers. I highlighted Walmart managers because Walmart is a shit company. Thus, it points out that if a shitty multi billion dollar international company will pass down shoplifting losses to their staff you know other smaller retailers will do the same.

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BigThief OP wrote

Reply to comment by bombastershop in Answers to questions by BigThief

I was in a salty mood when I posted this. This sub has existed for years and we are still seeing easy answer questions that the poster did zero effort in searching. I have decided not to answer questions where I have more vested than the person posting.

I have followed your site for a while - and watched many of your YouTubes.

I have wanted to order both a jammer and the tool that defeats the new optic based boxes ( can not remember the name of that damn thing )

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BigThief wrote

Reply to by !deleted34514

Happens all the time. Search google, facebook.... looking for shoplifting bolo, shoplifter wanted... not sure what the point of the question is..

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BigThief wrote

I am male but gonna answer the question anyhow... This would be shitty to lift from a boutique. Many people may say fuck the owners because it is an expensive store. I know people who have maxed their credit cards and taken loans from friends and family to run a boutique. This would be considered harming the working class.

Now, if you did your research and the owner is some fat cat just throwing investment money around then fuck em and clear the shelves.

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BigThief wrote (edited )

I am going to disagree almost all the posts above or below mine - not sure what order this post is going to land.

As with almost every fucking question it depends.... I have spoken with Walmart store managers and they are affected by shoplifting. However merchandise is missing it can affect a store.

  1. Manager bonuses can be tied to shrink. This can also affect employee bonuses. Also, this is not just about Walmart.. I am using Walmart because they are about the shittiest retailer... thus, if it affects them I am willing to assume it is the same for other retail stores.
  2. Labor and costs can be tied to shrink AND the stores revenue. Thus, it is possible a store could see tens of thousands of dollars in shoplifting losses but if the store is a 10 million plus per week revenue store then it is highly unlikely to affect labor. The converse, if a store is seeing 30 thousand in loses and they are a one million per week revenue store then you can 100% bet it will affect labor. A 3% shrink is well above the industry average. That manager is going to cut hours so that his store's net profit is going to match whatever their bonus structure is. That could be moving full time to part time and in extreme cases may also mean terminating staff.
  3. I was going to explain more but I am growing tired of arguing with people about shit they have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. If you want to know more ask more questions or DM. My posting history and advice alone should speak volumes about what the fuck I know and don't know.
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BigThief OP wrote

Reply to comment by Snuff_the_Booster in Answers to questions by BigThief

I am fairly sure if you are caught and charged with shoplifting the AP/LP/cop is going to know what those are when you are searched.

If you are not committing burglary, shoplifting, or some other retail theft then possession of the tools won't do much... however, it will always depend on jurisdiction. Some places, if you are not a locksmith, you can not possess lock picking tools. Know your jurisdiction and applicable laws.

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BigThief wrote

Reply to by megusta

What is the point of submitting this?

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BigThief wrote

If you really want to learn about ORC here are links you should follow. You will need to figure out how you are going to gain access.

https://nrf.com - National Retail Federation - it helps to understand the retail business. NRF ties into both security and loss prevention.

http://www.orcinfo.com/orc-associations.html - This is the main gateway to everything ORC. Look for your state. You are going to need connections here. You have to prove you are LP, cop, or work within the justice framework. Once you are in you are golden. I have been a part of my states group for over 10 years. It is pretty fucking hard to get in now because of verification.

https://losspreventionmedia.com - Read through here to gain current information. Also helpful to browse the jobs section to see if areas you hit are add staff.

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BigThief wrote

I doubt you are going to receive any information here.

There are two types of ORC:

  1. The knuckleheads who enter a store and clear an entire shelf or do a grab and run. This is called ORC but the people who do have no organization.
  2. The people who run lifting like the mob. There is structure, hierarchy, and everyone has a role. The fence, the booster, the scout... I know people who work in this field and I can answer questions in this realm. I am not going to take the time to do a brain dump.
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BigThief wrote

You plan to sneak into a store, disable the cameras, and rob the store?

What are you actually robbing? You plan to empty the safe; don't, almost all retail locations uses a drop safe. You plan to take a bunch of shit; why not just shoplift?

But, you need help figuring out how not to leave a trace? WTF, I'll humor you... Shave your entire body, exfoliate your entire body about an hour before you leave, apply a good water based moisturizer. Wear throw away shoes, clothes, hat, gloves, and glasses. The best thing you can do is go dumpster dive behind a hair salon, collect thousands of hair, drop them everywhere in the store.

If you still need help figuring out how to hide and not be noticed you are way too fucking far from ready to pull of this level of crime.

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