Amorphous

Amorphous wrote

sheesh, the melodrama in that last post.

I demand on my own behalf as a former member of r/genzanarchist, as a member of many of the newly created anarchist subreddits that have been banned under your silly rule

I can't imagine posting this publicly and thinking it makes me look good lol

Like yeah, reddit admins are fash, in other news water is wet.

I'm not sure I understand why y'all are even fighting the admins over this one, why do we need 17 new general-anarchist subreddits? /r/anarchism is still up, /r/completeanarchy is still up, this site is still here, etc.

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Amorphous wrote

Wait, you have read the book then. That's interesting. I'm curious how you still consider it a genocide, then. If the picture that book paints is true (and it's definitely the most thoroughly sourced document I've ever seen on the topic, so I have no reason to doubt it is) then the famine in Ukraine was, at worst, a matter of mismanagement on the part of the USSR. Exacerbated, of course, by bad actors -- both from foreign governments and from within. The foreigners, of course, hoping to make the USSR weaker, and the ones within selfishly attempting to hold on to their position as landlords.

But ultimately the famine was started entirely naturally. The region was prone to famines throughout history, and it is only during the lifespan of the USSR that those regular famines came to an end. I see no reason to believe Stalin hated Ukrainians or whatever, or wanted to starve people to death, or made any effort to starve people to death. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though. I'm definitely not a fan of Stalin. I respect him more than, say, Churchill, but that's not a high bar to clear.

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Amorphous wrote (edited )

I mean sure, feel free to ban me for that. But can you then read the book I linked and learn some history? I'd like to point out that banning someone for "genocide denial" for citing an extremely thorough, well sourced history book is quite ridiculous, though I fully expect it to happen.

Edit: Apologies, never actually linked it. Here it is: https://archive.org/details/DouglasTottleFraudFamineAndFascism

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Amorphous wrote (edited )

the imperialist force you're stanning for.

You are literally aligning yourself with actual nazis right now. It's hard to even overstate the absurdity of calling someone out for "stanning for imperialist forces" when you are so strongly in support of a story made up by actual nazis. Like, people who lived in the 30s and 40s and supported the german nazi party at that time. Not neo-nazis. Not kekistan-pepe-epic-gamer coward nazis. The kind of nazis who actually fucking supported real-world genocide at the time it was happening. Those are the people you are aligning yourself with. And somehow you don't see any issue with that.

Amazing.

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Amorphous wrote

Come on. I'm just saying, opposition to the popular narrative of the holodomor is not "genocide apologia." The narrative was constructed by literal nazis and their liberal allies. There's a book called Fraud, Famine, and Fascism by a guy called Douglas Tottle which goes over a lot of how this narrative was spun and how it traveled, and I'd highly recommend reading it. I could link you to the PDF, even.

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Amorphous wrote

Genocide apologia breaks the terms of service. Redfash that have been mods here in the past have banned people from forums for simply using the word "Holodomor"

Are you aware of where the word "Holodomor" comes from, how it was popularized, what sorts of people initially spread news of it, and so on? Genuine question. I know many people aren't familiar with all that stuff, but it's important to keep in mind when you're making claims as strong as "genocide apologia"

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Amorphous wrote

Well, no. It's not because you're upset, though my first reaction is to ask why you're upset over some random person you (wrongly) believe is only here to troll.

It's because of the way you express those feelings. To be more accurate, you don't seem to be very good at expressing your emotions. Typically, this is something associated with children. You know, we tend to get our tantrums out and get better at communicating our feelings as we get older.

And honestly, I'm sorry if I have upset you. Silly internet drama sucks. I don't want to have any problems with you. But you've acted like a bully in many of our interactions and that manifests in me venting about you. If that's not how you want to be seen, and not how you want people to talk about you, I get that. Let's move forward and stop being assholes to each other. Yeah?

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