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Alt OP wrote

Thanks for this. This may be a Canada specific thing, I assume there are many countries, perhaps more industrial ones preyed on by countries like Canada, who might have the capability.

I wonder how long it would take Canada to get the machinery etc. if they had the political will.

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You gotta think deeper about what you're after.

I assume as much. This is why I've asked for critique!

And like if you go after Pfizer what will it do?

It might just be the beginning of an intensity that keeps becoming something that doesn't get reabsorbed. We are in the collapse; our small potential fight-backs are interesting.

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And when the corporations & politicians come out and say that the attacks are preventing them from producing & distributing vaccines?

I suppose at that point we would point out that those countries have hoarded those vaccines and have more than enough, while others die. The intensifying of these issues is a large part of the point of the action.

I wouldn't be too optimistic about the response.

You are probably right, perhaps I have some faith that I shouldn't. My intuition is still

above ground organization publishing all the communiques

That does seem a concern. I assume that this could be done differently - anonymously - this time around. I think I would be willing to do something like that even with the risk.

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Alt OP wrote

Thanks.

For me it is more jouissance, together with the value of getting our ideas circulating, than about returning to normal, or even some of the benefits I've states do far (i.e. an additional form of pressure against IP laws).

I don't think that being wildly unpopular with developed countries is a big concern. I assume that anything critiquing that divide would be. And that those critiques still need to be made.

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I wonder if people could get away with it, given that these companies are spread all over the world under a range of conditions.

I think the relatively much broader appeal of challenging covid vaccine patents compared to challenging animal abuse could result in something different. I don't know.

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I couldn't say without more knowledge of the specific context and I don't know really how I would respond if I was there in the flesh.

I like CrimethInc.'s frame of accountability for Mussolini that they used in Against The Logic of The Guillotine.
But that is in a broader context where Mussolini is powerless.

In the event that there is an ongoing war and there's no significant possibility of an individual's rehabilitation, then I think it might be the right thing to kill that person.

The killing should never be systematised, or impersonal.

Already I am aware of myself as someone who would, if for some reason I happened to walk past someone like Bezos, or Musk, choose to suffer any consequence afterward to ensure that they die in that moment. Though we have never met, they are in a real sense my enemy in a personal way.

And in fact I think that we should if we can, in the form of the SHAC model, be killing billionaires. And similarly, those fascists who we have in our locales, who we have a more intimate relationship with, they will never be 'reformed', and once we understand their ecosystem, it will often be appropriate to kill them if we can get away with it.

I don't like military framing, but I understand myself and anarchists all over the world already to be at war with them in a real sense. We must kill them as humans fully attuned to their humanity.

Critique and contributions to this are invited.

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The revolution is aimed at new arrangements, while the insurrection leads us to no longer let ourselves be arranged, but rather to arrange ourselves, and sets no radiant hopes on "institutions." - Stirner

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Alt OP wrote

Mixed responses from a politically mixed crowd in part because the speaker comes from a different context, but there generally seemed to be a relief/enjoyment that these topics were even being spoken about, that the 'progressives' were also being thrown under the bus, that their feelings and senses of the harms done to them were articulated and validated.

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But you can say "it didn't work" about everything else too. This is an all-round losing battle against collapse.

And I'm not saying we should do the exact same things. I'm reaching for ways that we could do something different, something more affecting for more people for longer.

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