Alcoholic

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Alcoholic wrote

Rehabilitation > punishment

You're right no one is required to do anything. Including be nice to animals. I do legitimize killing animals in a way that let's me accept what's happening now to prevent it in the future though a long term campaign of persuasion.

I'm here for objective results. I'm here to make a difference.

I'm not here to jerk off in my own good ethics while shutting off everyone else because I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing this for our animals and world.

Though logic and compassion And not through shame and anger

I know you don't like to hear it but this is and will be used against our community. As soon as someone posts this somewhere they're going to paint us all this way. With intolerance and overly emotional people and will even take it as a personal attack. Think of the big picture.

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Alcoholic wrote

Offence is subjective. I don't call a gay person faggot I dont call a MTF a tranny.

Even though they both kind of work literally in a linguistic level. It's the intention that makes it different.

Carnist sound fucking evil and creepy. Who tf wants to be called a carnist? How will that win the hearts and minds of our omni friends and family? It won't it just makes them dislike vegans who call them that.

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Alcoholic wrote

Really that type of "them vs us" turns a lot of potential vegans away. as a starting vegan myself the biggest obstacle by far was the community, you can call me enabling all you want but I'm only here because of other tactful vegans helping me along the way.

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Alcoholic wrote

No you didint, I would've observed and used that information to try and understand where you're coming from. Can you just copy paste It? What is patriarchy? I'm very new to all this and im trying my best to understand I don't want people being intellectually dishonest at me telling me I'm a troll and trying to invalidate me and my argument. This is very unpleasant and I don't want you to ruin my experience of who feminists are. So please.

What is patriarchy and why does masculine verbiage make it part of it?

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Alcoholic wrote (edited )

There you go being dismissive again. Look obviously you're not here to have a discussion. Because you dont have a real argument instead of deflecting with an easy response of "No you are" why dont you explain why I cant call a group of my friends dudes. Including girls. Edit: spelling

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Alcoholic wrote

You're like that BBC girl that went on about digital blackface. Concerning stupid shit non issues and sacrificing actual productive discussion on things that matter. Stop being so dismissive and reactionary and take time to think about why you're arguing in the first place.

You could have just said. "I feel we should use more gender neutral words like humankind instead of mankind because it would help better represent all of us as a whole." And I agree.