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A_Plus wrote

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!! I should slap myself for even saying there is anything wrong with us lifting. hahaha We all see how the Targets, Walmarts, Safeways, Cosctos, CVS's, Giant's have people at the top making millions and billions while the workers don't get shittt, and the customers are paying for overpriced items. We should look at it like WE ARE LIFTING FROM A BUNCH OF THIEVES AND WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS!! haha

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A_Plus wrote

haha that would be a great idea and I've really thought about that!! The problem is we have too many dumb, overzealous customers or employees out here who think shoplifting is on the same level as 1st degree murder and I like doing illegal shitt solo, that may be why I'm a bit limited in what I can do. haha

I've also got to say congrats on finding a wife who lifts with you, that's what I call relationship goals, not the sappy bull shittt. hahaha

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I'd give this post a million thumbs up if I could!! haha Everything you wrote was spot on, a while back someone commented that the key to getting away with shoplifting is being "Less Black", and I don't think it was meant to be offensive in any way. All the talk from LP and companies claiming that they don't racial profile is BULLSHITT as you put it.

I lift just about every food or household item that can fit into my pockets so it not necessarily at your level, but its great when you think about all the money you have saved from actually purchasing stuff.

I like that you mentioned all the well-to-do folks who steal way more and commit worse acts than shoplifting, but these lowlifes who steal millions and screw their employees convince the masses that shoplifters who lift 100's or maybe thousands of dollars worth of items are the worst of the worst. My saying is, sure lifting may be a little wrong, but every country and company is run and probably founded on principles of corruption, greed and lawlessness, so what's the big deal. hahahaha

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A_Plus OP wrote

I agree, why would you want to intentionally piss off or troll LP and security who may have a weapon and could physically harm you. Some of these LP and employees take the job way too seriously and are looking to pounce on anything that is slightly suspicious. All of us here hate LP, but our goal is to lift as much as possible without getting caught, not play childish pranks on LP.

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Reply to comment by MadameLift in Who does shoplifting affect? by Slyone

I get your point of view about stores in black or latino areas having a lot of stuff locked up to prevent theft but they can't lock everything up. hahaha, and I say if you are a POC and want to lift on a regular basis, and you had a choice between a store in a white area versuz one in a non-white area, you must hit the non white store because the store employees and the police are gonna be more aggressive towards POC on White crime then POC on POC crime

True, you can clean a retailer out with a lawsuit for a false stop but a POC also risks BEING MURDERED in that scenario and having society blame the POC for allegedly being a thief!! But if a POC or anyone else can get hundreds of thousands or millions out of a big retailer due to a false stop or whatever else, I'm all for it. I'm about to post a new topic where this happened.

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We feel bad for any employees that may get hurt but, FUKKKK NORDSTROM'S, HOME DEPOT, WALMART, TARGET AND EVERY OTHER BIG RETAIL CHAIN THAT GETS LOOTED. hahaha

This is probably the best way to steal large amounts of stuff without actually sticking up a place but it looks like the police are really cracking down on these guys and will throw the book at them if they catch them, but I do feel a sense of pride for the lifters who pulled this off and stole possibly 100's of thousands from these greedy scumbag retailers. hahaha

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A_Plus wrote (edited )

This is 100% accurate, unfortunately society tricks people into thinking that THE HAVE's achieved their status through just hard work, intelligence and a strong belief in god, not nepotism, kissing asss, fraud, greed, knowing the right people etc. haha The majority of those who line up at the register and needed to penny pinch to afford everything believe that the clowns in charge are just better than them, and maybe they can be like them one day if you work hard and pray. That sort of mindset may be why the lower level employees or even regular customers act like highly paid FBI agents when someone shoplifts.

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Kinshavo and GoodOldWorkingClass are 100% right about this, these big retailers have accounted for shoplifting before the items are even shoplifted. haha And unless you actually saw a customer or patron steal an item, you can't be sure whether it was shoplifting, internal employee theft or paperwork error/fraud. It's way more convenient for the big retailers and media to blame poor, and in many cases Black/Hispanic/minority for all the theft and problems, and ignore the greediness of these big retailers who overprice items and treat the lower-level employees like shittt in terms of wages and benefits. Most people in society love to look down on those who they think are lower than them, so the big retailers like CVS, Walgreens and Walmart blaming The Blacks and The Mexicans for the higher prices and stores closing down is a big win for them

In terms of privilege, if you are a minority, I suggest you lift in places where the employees and customers are overwhelmingly minorities. Its going to be hard to single out a black and latino customers, if all the customers are black and latino. hahaha

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Everybody must remember that shoplifting is PETTY theft, I don't think you can make a living doing it, but its great for getting free items which saves you money that you can use for other things that are harder to lift. hahaha Those who say they support themselves by shoplifting are lying imo. The only way you can make a "living" shoplifting is if you have a ring or team of lifters and you gathered all the stolen items in one place and sold them in bulk and I'm not sure you want to do that if you have a family to support, unless your family lifts with you. haha

If you need to make 800 per month, I think you should do some sort of insurance-credit card-social security fraud that can get you thousands or even hundreds of thousands quickly which can cover everything for you and your family for months or up to a year.

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haha good story, the store employee must have felt like a moron when he called the cops and realized they are not gonna respond to someone stealing some soda and junk food. Some of these store employees act like they are busting murderers when they catch shoplifters, its funny and a little sad at the same time because these employees are at the bottom of the store's pecking order so they shouldn't care that much. Stealing from a store that has overpriced everything compared to what it takes to produce the stuff is a good thing in my book. haha

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LP can still be hands on these days? wow!! LP tik tok guy seems way too aggressive and takes lifting personally, sounds like a prime candidate to really hurt or kill someone, get fired and force Rite Aid to change their LP policies. I think this happened to CVS where a meathead LP guy seriously injured or killed a lifter a few years ago. I'm gonna laugh out loud if this LP guy gets fired after he gets triggered and things go sideways for him and the store. hahahaha

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I never lifted or even been to a Dollar General but I'll chime in anyways. haha If they sell brand name items for example Old Spice products instead of Mike's long lasting deodorant, and you find its easy to lift from there KEEP DOING IT!! There is no need to find a bigger or harder store if you can get the stuff you need at a particular place that is smaller and easier.

You should consider all stores hard. No store wants people stealing from them even if they have insurance that covers theft and have poor security, don't get overconfident.

Big Thief has the best advice IMO, feel out a store before you lift. What I've seen is that a particular chain in one location has a totally different security system than one in a different nearby location

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Good information, its great to hear from former employees who join us on the dark side. hahaha You said employees cannot accuse you of shoplifting, what exactly can they do if they suspect someone? Do they report it to security? My experience as a lifter tells me each employee acts different when it comes to catching lifters. Some take it personally, others don't give a shittt!! The times I've had retail-ish jobs, I never watched out for lifters or cared if someone was lifting.

Pretending to scan items is a great tactic, I may have to try it!! I see how it could work because the screen will still be on welcome and ready for the next customer when you walk away. I read your response to another guy, and have to ask about your methods. You said you scan a couple cheap things and fake scan the rest. Isn't the machine able to detect things that are not scanned, and make a beeping sound? I noticed this when I used to use the self checkout to lift and heard a beeping sound when I attempted to put the items I wanted to lift in the bag.

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You right its probably easier and safer to just walk out with your items in a cart, not scan everything at self checkout and walk out. Maybe going through self checkout makes it look like you paid for everything? I always wanted to ask this about walk outs, do you find a blind spot to bag the items or do you just walk out with the items in the cart with no store bags?

My funniest experience with this was when I went up to a self checkout and it wasn't on the welcome screen, I called the employee over and she actually ran to the door to see if she could find the lifter. hahaha I sort of respect her loyalty to the store but the lowest paid employee of a store shouldn't care that much about people stealing. The goofy employee was acting as if someone stole from her personally.

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A_Plus wrote

Both sides can be right because they do have employees and maybe security looking over self-checkout, but store employees can't see everything you ring up, so self checkout can be a good way to lift when its busy. I used to use self check out to lift bigger items that I can't stick in my pockets like 6 or 8 packs of soap, detergent, packs of water or soda, bread etc. a lot. I would ring items up that I'm paying for, put the 1 or 2 items I want to lift to the side or above the register, and then stick the item in the bag after I ring up everything. The censor turns off after you complete the transaction.

I haven't done this in a while though because self check out is closely monitored most times. Also, that method led to me getting caught or sussed out when I returned because an employee saw what I did, no matter what you think, you can't always be sure that nobody is watching you especially at self check out. hahaha Now I mostly lift things I can stick in my pockets.

Another thing I've seen, I haven't done this, is people ringing everything up, bagging it and just walking out. The look or sound of frustration from the store employee is priceless. haha Has anyone done this where you ring everything up and just walk out? I'm guessing this has to be a spur of the moment thing because there are usually 2 or more people looking over self-checkout, and they'll notice when someone hasn't payed by looking at the screen. You always see the employees looking around, even if they may not be allowed to enforce shoplifting, the Paul Blart types will try to remember your face or report you.

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Reply to by !deleted31441

I agree with y'all being skeptical about this because most gas station pumps will not activate until you swipe your card or go inside to pay but I respect OP for even coming up with an idea like this and sharing it with us. I always viewed stealing gas from the pump as being impossible unless you stole someone's credit card and used it to pay. haha but this show some high level creativity here

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A_Plus wrote

agreed, but you probably should have let OP continue with their fantasy posting. haha I understand your response though, lifting can carry serious charges and you don't want someone to think you can easily lift furniture, luggage, big-screen HD TV's, kitchen appliances, car parts, etc. for a long period of time! OP sounds like a guy bragging/lying about his sexual conquests. hahaha

When it comes to lifting, there is only so much you can lift all the time without ever paying imo, these are items that you can fit in your pockets, pants, shoes, etc such as batteries, lotion, or food that comes in smaller packages, its hard for people to notice you have these items on you. All the other stuff like walkouts, barcode switching, using tools to open secure packages is very risky.

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100% right!! All of us lift because we are needy or greedy, or maybe a little of both. hahaha Some of these guys are falling into the rich people myth that only poor people commit crimes and people who are rich are upstanding people. Whether you are rich or poor, nothing beats getting something for free and all tips on how to lift should be embraced

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Reply to by !deleted19806

Before getting serious, I gotta say lol at the LP telling you, 'you're not the type.' From time to time I look at reddit's LP page and you see that they catch people in all shapes, sizes, colors and sexes. One LP person caught their professor lifting and another caught the parent of a friend lifting.

If they suspected you had lifted from there before, they would have mentioned it to you when they caught you. I don't think they will go back and look at old video, its not like you committed an armed robbery or a violent act, the police aren't going to look through old video for shoplifting!! I'm guessing you will have to take some classes or do community service as other posters have said because its just shoplifting. Do you know the dollar amount that you were caught lifting? That could play a role in what happens to you? I suggest you go to another walmart NOT TO LIFT but just buying things and pay attention to see whether security or store employees are monitoring you.

Her situation brings me to this question, if you get caught, do you all think its better to make a run for it or go to the back with LP? It seems as if both options can be equally good and bad because running allows you to escape, but what if you have some No-Life LP who think shoplifters are like serial killers and they must capture you to protect the public. haha But I have heard from LP that going to the back and cooperating will just get you a ban and your picture taken. Maybe it all depends on the dollar amount and if you are a repeat offender.

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I'm with you guys, people looting and stealing from Target also makes me real happy. Target is so strict on shoplifting and now a bunch of people are just taking their shittt and there's nothing they can do about it. hahaha

I also felt profiled when I went into Target one time, even though I do lift, I never lifted from Target due to repeated warnings from this page and reddit's old shoplifting page about how they have top level LP. Its always going to be FUKK Target from me and I'll always be grateful when bad things happen to Target. hahaha

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Some of yall are talking about not leaving your house and a lot of places being closed, but the grocery stores are still open and can be violated by us. hahaha I mostly lift by sticking items into my winter coat pockets, and with it being spring time and the cold days being rare, I've got to risk it and lift whenever the temperature is 55 or lower. 55 is the cut off temperature for whether I put on my winter lifting coat. hahaha

My city just put up an order saying that everyone who enters a grocery store must have a mask, I DON'T HAVE A FUKKIN MASK!!! I'm cool with the social distancing and shitt being closed, but how do they expect the average person to just come up with a mask?? These goofy politicians should at least provide them at the entrances for those who don't have access to them!! We're gonna have some cold days in the middle of the week, I'm gonna see if they let me in the grocery store without a mask. I'm considering just wrapping an old t-shirt around my neck and using that as a mask if it comes to that. haha

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I say it can be both because stores are now limiting the number of people who can go in which probably makes it harder to lift, waiting to get into a store kills the mood to me. haha But a lot of employees/security may be more worried about people maintaining social distancing and that no one is intentionally or unintentionally coughing to really focus on shoplifting.

I recently had a plan to lift from 2 grocery stores by sticking items in my coat pocket, the first one was fairly easy I stuck a few items in my pockets, paid for a few things then left. I did see an employee standing at the entrance writing something down. I later figured he was keeping track of how many people were in the store, and he would have people wait to get in if it reached a certain number. The 2nd grocery store had a pretty long line of people waiting outside to get in so I didn't even bother with it and just left.

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