Submitted by rattledlove1139 in tidymess1139
On that eating oysters thread some people dismiss idea that plants feel pain and even bring up that inanimate objects not alive when not really what talk about
I ask
Who is hurt if you believe these things and decide gentleness with everything you handle?
No one.. It is "weird" thing but not bad.
I do not have answers pain or no pain but why should that prevent respect anyhow? I can not avoid step on grass but i am grateful it take me where i want. Sometimes i want cut something off plant for myself so i Ask and use scissors carefully if i feel OK to do.
Some people do not think twice about destroy things they own. i think there is value in gratitude for paper you wrote on for example, in some sense you could say you GAVE it life by filling with your thoughts. Not that gratitude means hoard and keep forever, but respect for what you wrote there and if possible reuse in some means, like cutting up for craft. Even mundane thing like shopping list or to-do list, help you keep on track, and is worth respect.
I do not think fair just dismiss life in objects for reasons like that; we give objects we use purpose, put our feelings in them. Very many objects also use materials that able trace back to earthly source, even if process beyond recognition. It is not life we can "measure" or that able to move and interact with us, i guess "spiritual" sort of life which already topic some turn away from. But i see no reason complete disrespect idea or people who do hold true.
I find helps me be mindful in how i treat things around me, and care for them so not break important things. i know some times where really should not get tied up in think about this stuff, but those to me exception and not rule. In everyday life i see no harm treat plants and objects too with respect and gratitude
rattledlove1139 OP wrote (edited )
I do not know if someone misunderstood or just looked and decided not worth respect but there is negative point, shame
But i figured might explain when i say Ask
it is not with words out loud because I already can not really do that. It is more like i give the plant a touch and see how my core responds. If i feel a sinking beat that means no. Rising means yes.
could argue that means my reaction alone, not plant, so i should not see as if plant have feelings and communicate them. That is silly to me. I do not care if true, because either way I am feeling "No, this is not good idea to take."
So why should it matter then if i feel that because i subconsciously tell myself "I do not need this" or "this could do too much harm", or because there really is some kind of spirit in plant communicating in its own way "No, you can not take this" or "No, that would hurt me"? (I still think even without spirits, there is room to say we don't fully understand plant life and how it communicates or feels. Bite me i guess.)
Sometimes i think decisions and actions like this do not need some hard proof to justify carrying on if they ultimately help. My respect and gratitude of my food, my objects, and plants around me help me live life I am proud in, so why matter whether core belief "proven" right or wrong?