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SnowCode wrote

Can you give an example?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote (edited )

Nothing specific. Tho I think there is a problem with how realistic and attainable and how close perception is to reality. Due to friction(sorry using the Millitary tactics term out of context but best explaination I can think of) shit doesn't go nearly at all like planned. To do a lot of even basic radical stuff u have to be highly adaptable which anarchist programs are not.

Plus considering how my plans which I already cut down on fat of most stuff so my principles can be done shit is super hard. For example it rarely comes up the super basic problem of distribution. I have so many times been in a situation where I have tons of food I will give out for free but I just compos it instead bc I can't find people who will eat it.

I mean people criticize grocery stores for their waste but whatever ridiculous stats they have they look great compared to the ridiculous food loss to give out I have done over a while.

Plans can be perfect untill u realize X problem u never though of and u either scrap ur plans or make compromises. And this is just the whole process.

I'm super tires ATM so I only wrote a bit. But basically while anarchist lifestyles have their pros almost all sucking by having shitty positions or dropping it to go live a normie lifestyle makes sense bc the grass isn't that green once u cross.

Is it good and have potential yes. Is it also incredibly awful yes. Idk, mostly I see most anarchists who have goals seem willfully unprepared to do it and have a goal so unjbtainabke and refuse to work on the stepping stones necessary.

Mostly the naritive around anarchism in practice is vastly inaccurate to what it is in reality. Not in that it isn't good just all the shit isn't talked about. Also, just life in general requires a fuck ton of effort and skills and prep work to make minor changes to the status quo. So projects that seem minor are fucking massive undertaking.

Everything is harder, more unethical, depressing, scary, unexciting, unnerving than u would expect.

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One important thing I would add is I thought things would be way better if I took care of my life with anti work principles. You know do stuff in a fun way. Which does work and is very nice until you have to do something u depend on and u can't figure out how to do it in a fun way. So after time u end up in a situation where just like a traditional job you have to X,Y,Z. But unlike regular work you have to motivate yourself, also you are by yourself so its all on you everyday or whatever. Unlike work were you can get money for food and housing or whatever while slacking off and being told what to do.

Well when u have to take care of essentials for yourself in an anarchistic way and you can't figure out how to have it in a fun way you have to boss yourself arround. So then instead of yourself against the man your the man and your slacking only hurts yourself. So anti work methods of play to care for yourself is really hard for me to figure out how to do in more ordered stuff. Sure it works great for chaotic actions one you don't have to do reliably and benefit from random one of actions. But monotonous shit like "ugh, time to go route through dumpsters to get some food which was once exciting becomes boring as you do it a couple times. And plus all the other shit you have to do. How do you store the food to prevent food rot, rotating out the past stuff, ect ect" So u follow just like a job which is better from an autonomy perspective so more freedom but from a fun factor its a lot more emotionally difficult.

A lot I think has to do with the exploitation narrative priming people in a weird way. Like people say they have to work to live but like if you have the anarcho ability to do it yourself you still have to do stuff to live. And people have a romanticized view of it being different tho in reality its super easy for it to feel similar in a way that you just have to keep up repetitive shit over and over. Tho this time you have to boss yourself around which is better but still not that pleasant.

So much of ordered stuff that is necessary which is basically anything you depend on requires a lot of monotony and doing stuff over and over again which tbh anarchism as a philosophy attracts people who are fuck horrible at that.

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