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boringskip wrote

ummm what?

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Anarchopizza wrote

Is this the new social issue we must concern ourselves with? is this the future of the social justice movement? should we applaud this? is this what we are supposed to be doing? are they right? are we wrong? should incest be allowed? someone please help.

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boringskip wrote

there's clear issues with the power dynamics in such a relationship, as well as genetic diseases (inb4 statistics that show it might be kinda not terrible)

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MrJoshTheEpic wrote

there's clear issues with the power dynamics

You seem to be assuming a parent-child relationship or some other in which authority is involved, and of course I completely agree there. However, you completely ignore other forms of incest, such as sibling-sibling or cousin-cousin, which while they can have issues with power, just as any relationship can, do not have to.

as well as genetic diseases

That's inbreeding, distinct from incest in that it results in pregnancy, where as incest only necessitates a romantic relationship between closely related family members. So all inbreeding is incestuous, but not all incest is inbreeding. Those are just my definitions though.

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ChaosRocket wrote

I don’t agree with this at all. Incestuous relationships involve power dynamics that make them abusive far more often than not. Also, even though a single generation of incest doesn’t involve TOO much more risk for genetic defects, multiple generations of incest definitely does. If it becomes legal and socially acceptable, it could happen enough to make that issue come into play.

It’s not social justice to defend people who want to have sex with their own children. Even if those children are now adults, that’s just an abusive dynamic.

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jorgesumle wrote

even though a single generation of incest doesn’t involve TOO much more risk for genetic defects, multiple generations of incest definitely does.

That's what happened to Charles II of Spain. From Wikipedia:

Charles was severely disabled, both physically and mentally, described as "short, lame, epileptic, senile and completely bald before 35, always on the verge of death but repeatedly baffling Christendom by continuing to live."[6] He is thought to have suffered from the endocrine disease acromegaly and a combination of rare genetic disorders often transmitted through recessive genes, including combined pituitary hormone deficiency and distal renal tubular acidosis. In his case, the so-called Habsburg lip was so pronounced that he spoke and ate with difficulty his entire life. He did not learn to speak until four, walk until eight, was effectively treated as an infant until he was ten years old and did not attend school.