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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

I don't see how giving extremely poor indigenous people infertile deforrested farmland 1000s of miles from their family will help.

Or should we give them 15k as a bribe for being actively genocides to this day. Indigenous people really need some liberal white saviors to save them with charity.

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CircleA OP wrote

Who said anything about infertile deforested farmland? Give them their own land back. all the state-owned land at the very least, plus land being held by speculators / developers / landlords.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

Give the tobacco and gambling tycoon poc apartment buildings so they can be landlords. Great idea!!!

Don't even get me started in the white supremacy inherent to taking a large amount of extremely diverse ethic groups who even in a single ethic group have extremely different roles, wants and desires and otherizing them as the hegemonic indigenous people.

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CircleA OP wrote

Are you a white settler?

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lettuceLeafer wrote

Me being a white settler doesn't absolve u of being racist lel

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CircleA OP wrote (edited )

calls indigenous people 'tabacco and gambling tycoons' and insinuates they want to exploit the poor innocent white settlers who took their land at gunpoint and calls me racist

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lettuceLeafer wrote

Some indigenous people are tobacco and gambling tycoon. Not all or even most. Just a select few.

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CircleA OP wrote

Imagine saying settlers can't give back land to their victims because 1. the victims are 'extremely poor indigenous people' who won't know what to do with it and 2. the victims are 'tobacco and gambling tycoons' who will exploit the settlers by becoming their landlords.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

I never said they wouldn't know what to do with it. If u have no money it will be extremely useless to give people land far away from all their social support networks leave their home to go live in land that they don't have the resources to make useful. Land still extremely far away from essentials such as sources of income, grocery stores and hospitals.

This is assuming the hegemonic indigenous people want to leave everyone dependent on them to go be a homesteader.

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CircleA OP wrote

If u have no money it will be extremely useless to give people land

Yeah land is so useless to people who have none because it's been stolen from them as part of an ongoing genocide.

settlers gonna settler

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

Useless bc the reasons I stated above and that most of the value has been extracted out of it.

The ol classic take over land by force extract all the resources then give the really fucked up now terrible land back to the native population. If ur using a tactic taken from the British Empire to cure ur white guilt then maybe it's not that great of an idea maybe..

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CircleA OP wrote

I'm not a settler, the opposite in fact. You, on the other hand are suffering from an acute case of highly contagious settleritis.

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

I don't see how. I have no stake in the game of land back and reparations since I have very little money and own no property.

I just think indigenous people face very unique problems with require individual solutions catered to what they want. I'm very critical of people labeling a ethic group and claiming they all what the same thing based on their race rather than actually communicating with the individual what they want.

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Ig I'd be a little annoyed if I had to give the little money I have saved to buy food if I become unemployed or buy food for my parents in case of them becoming unable to work. But other than that idc on a personal level about about reparations.

Tho I don't think that's really what people are suggesting tho.

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