Submitted by Sturnella_Magna in reddit (edited )

Reddit censored a post of a news article on /r/UKPolitics about her being removed from the green party for failure to report her father who is actively on trial for crimes related to child rape.

Moderator teams are now attempting to discourage users from stating openly that the name of the reddit Admin hired on despite defending pedophiles is Aimee Challenor. Even on the original post about why UKPolitics was locked.

I've been thinking about coming here to raddle for a while. But this is the final straw. I understand that a lot of this is on the Admin team. However, the fact that the response of various moderation teams has been to assist in shutting down those who say the name of the admin who needs to be removed, and to assist in shutting down conversation speaks to a real, and terrifying cultural issue on the site.

The appropriate response to people talking about how someone on the reddit staff has been named as actively defending pedophiles is not to help quash that name, but to help spread it. To attempt to force an issue underground into a broken-stair scenario is absolutely disgusting.

I want to make clear that people who defend pedophiles do not speak for the LGBTQ+ community even if they are trans.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report

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lastfutures wrote (edited )

Are there sources for defending pedophiles other than that one article? Cause that just sounds like an extremely fucked up situation that no one would want to be in, I'm a little confused at the outrage. And who's the husband in your title?

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Sturnella_Magna OP wrote

Aimee Challenor defending Aimee Challenor's husband.

Her Father was already going to court over having brutally kidnaped and raped a 10-yeard old girl when she hired him on his campaign staff and attempted to justify it to the Green party.

She was also kicked out of the Liberal Democrats over this.

And her husband keeps making tweets supporting pedophilia, too.

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lastfutures wrote

Where's the source for her defending her husband's statements? What were the statements?

This feels like some transphobic victim blaming shit to me. People fuck up their relationships until like 35 cause of their parents' divorce or whatever. I think if your dad was the kinda guy to have a child rape & torture attic in your childhood house you get a pass on bad family relationship decisions until at least 24.

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Sturnella_Magna OP wrote (edited )

I put the sources in permalinks in the post? A quick google search for "Aimee Challenor Pedophilia" turns it all up.

She is obviously hiding behind her trans status. That is unacceptable. People who defend pedophiles and knowingly marry pedophiles do not get to speak for LGBTQ, even if they are trans.

Nothing wrong with trans people. Everything wrong with trans pedophiles. Because of the Pedophile bit.

https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1151019093031567360

I want to make it clear that I do not condone the transphobia in this twitter thread. It is a good highlight of what happened years ago though. It's pretty fucked up to knowingly cover for and assist known pedophiles in your life in raping children.

I'll underline the hyperlinks... -.-

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lastfutures wrote (edited )

I looked at the links, there are no sources for that. None of the links get into details about the tweets, there's no proof of anything.

It seems more like a young person in a very fucked up position, and then transphobes using that to attack her along very familiar lines. Calling queer people pedophiles is the like oldest move in the book and there is literally nothing suggesting she is a pedophile from what I've seen. This "nothing wrong with trans people" shit isn't convincing.

edit: A blatantly transphobic propaganda twitter account isn't a fucking source.

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Sturnella_Magna OP wrote (edited )

Ignoring the guardian article and the fact that both the liberal and green party (which, while admittedly liberal parties, are not opposed to trans people) in the UK expelled her over this is indicative of some pretty major compartmentalization here guy.

You can't just ignore the evidence because there is an element of transphobia here. I'm well aware of the element of transphobia. The element of transphobia is absolutely fucked.

But your attempted defense of a woman who clearly enables pedophilia and places herself in postitions where she could potentially give her partner and her father access to children to abuse is fucking yikes, man.

Please ask yourself what it looks like for you to be attempting to defend her and make excuses for her because you're scared of the ramifications that she happens to be trans at the same time? If you're LGBTQ+ or an ally of LGBTQ+ it looks like you're willing to ignore pedophiles who happen to be in your community. Which is a problem.

LGBTQ+ people are not pedophiles. And pedophiles should not be permitted to speak for LGBTQ+. As a person whose entire friend group is LGBTQ+ and who has been in LGTBQ+ spaces, I am personally freaked out about the idea that individuals who potentially have the power to exorcise pedophiles from these spaces might not do so because they put fear of backlash for LGBTQ+ over the real, physical saftey of the young people in their spaces.

I understand that the backlash is real, and that LGBTQ+ people are in a really shaky spot right now where conservatives/the-right are attempting to strip their rights and liberals are attempting to take away their and everyone else's ability to defend themselves. I understand the harm that can come from scenarios such as this, where a pedophile happens to be trans.

However, much more harm is done to the community if people eschew their morality, and the necessity of calling out pedophiles over that fear. If people fail to root pedophiles out of spaces where they can do harm to children.

Schoolboards protecting pedophile principals for fear of investigation and losing funding, the catholic church protecting pedophile priests so they can continue to feign their carefully constructed "holiness" are both adjacent examples.

A similar example might be how people fought back against convicted rapist Bill Cosby being a potential rapist because he was "Americas Dad" and willfully locked it out of their brains. But Bill Cosby being a rapist who happens to be black does not make the "Black people are rapists" stereotype true, either.

Stop doing this. The information and evidence is there IMO that she's a person who should not be allowed to be in positions of power, even if you only accept the "Defended her rapist father and was kicked out of two political parties" from the guardian article.

Edit: I meant the independent article. But here's a guardian article, as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report

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lastfutures wrote (edited )

Literally all the Guardian article says is that a 20 year old trans woman with a monster for a father didn't properly report him to the political parties she worked for. Doesn't say anything about defending his actions, arguably it's the opposite, since the only quote from her is: "“Thankfully there is no evidence that anyone was close to harm as a result of their contact with the Green party. My thoughts continue to be with those my father caused harm." Also, " In a statement announcing her withdrawal from the contest, the 21-year-old said she was horrified and saddened by her father’s crimes, and had only learned the full details of them just before his conviction."

All of the other claims that you make, that she's a pedophile, defends pedophiles, and so on, comes from blatant transphobes who want to harass her and other trans people. By the way, political parties aren't well known for defending queer people for public outrage, and the UK is infamous for it's transphobia problem right now. We have no idea what kind of relationship she has to her family, but it's not unlikely she's been abused or manipulated by the creep herself. If you really think a 20 year old raised by a serial child rapist should be doxxed, harassed, and never have a job because they didn't handle it professionally, you're either transphobic or totally fucked in the head. How is your first thought reading that story not that they probably have a real fucked up relationship to the father? That they likely suffered abuse or manipulation themselves (way more common among queer people btw)?

As a person whose entire friend group is LGBTQ+ and who has been in LGTBQ+ spaces

Translation for people not keeping up: "I myself am not an LGTBQ+ or trans person". So maybe shut the fuck up and stop using fake concern over LGBT people as a front for transphobia. Doxxing and harassing queer people for any association with abusive predators, when you don't even know the fucking story, is fucked.

Position of power, she's a fucking reddit admin. An internet janitor for racists and incels. What planet are you living on.

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Sturnella_Magna OP wrote

"Position of power, she's a fucking reddit admin. What planet are you living on."

A planet that is much more aware of nuances than you.

I'm aware of all of these externalities, and I think it's perfectly reasonable to be critical of the fact that she did not adequately report her father to the Green party. I also think it's reasonable to be critical of the fact that while her father was in jail she had an opportunity to improve her position.

And the fact that she had a choice to not marry a person who clearly supports pedophilia.

Also, there have been two statements by the reddit admin staff, neither of which mention the pedophilia connections at all. Which does not bode well.

If you think that a reddit admin does not have the potential to abuse their access to reddit admin tools to potentially exploit children then I don't know what planet you live on guy. And if you think that her continued connection with her father and a husband who clearly has pedophilic tendencies is not a problem, then I don't know what's going through your thick skull.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/mbqgx2/a_clarification_on_actioning_and_employee_names/

If you can't see this thread I'll think about posting the screenshots, but I'm really uninterested in continuing to interact with you.

Like I've tried to say, she crossed a line from being a victim to being an enabler, and potential abuser when she failed to report her father and married a person who openly makes pedophilic remarks.

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lastfutures wrote

There's no evidence for any of that other than a transphobe's twitter, someone who spends all day spreading bullshit about trans people.

Someone ban this fucking loser already.

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Sturnella_Magna OP wrote

You're just gonna gloss over the jailbait pedophilia subreddit stuff that happened a few years ago that has relevancy that's also mentioned, too?

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lastfutures wrote

It has no relevance when you've provided zero evidence the admin is a pedophile.

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