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OnlyCirceOus wrote
Well, based solely on this quote, what he’s going to do is call you not nice names. 🤷♀️
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Rat wrote
I merely profess a commitment to equality, but he is in fact much more equal than I am. Go figure!
wednesday wrote
not nice names
personally i consider 'do-nothing' a compliment of the highest order, and aspire to do even less every day!
OnlyCirceOus wrote
Good point! Let me clarify: “going to call you what he thinks of as not nice names”.
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sudo OP wrote
All I can do is encourage you to do something.
Rat wrote
Thank you for the encouragement, I've been waiting for to poop all day, I think it's finally coming
TheJawns wrote
How "effective" has those "actions for change" been so far?
sudo OP wrote
Can't go into too much detail because of OpSec, but recently our pre-party formation held a community meeting over issues that are affecting a certain marginalized community. We had over 60 people show up, and we had a good discussion on the current situation and what we can actually do about it. Seems most people are interested in learning self-defense, so we're planning on putting together some free self-defense trainings. People are glad that we're talking about these things, and are eager to work with us to build up practical solutions to the problems they're facing.
ziq wrote
People can learn self defense without needing to pay fealty to a maoist congregation
TheJawns wrote
I was talking more in a general sense: what action could possibly be so obviously effective, that everyone should be obligated to support it? You can use this argument to support literally any action, it is completely meaningless.
This seems to me to be nothing more than a cheap attempt to discredit anyone who doesn't fully support whatever cause you want this to apply to...
sudo OP wrote
I can see how it could be used to support anything out of context. So I looked up the context of the quote, and he's talking about liberal middle-class americans, which is what I assumed it was about. His point is that their privilege cushions them from the worst effects of capitalism, racism, etc. They don't understand the direness of the situation, so they oppose radical things like revolution, because capitalism works well enough for them. They can't see that working within the system doesn't accomplish anything, and because they aren't directly affected much by capitalist injustices, they don't do much to try to stop them. Oppression is theoretical for them, rather than an everyday experience.
TheJawns wrote
In that case it's probably just an okay quote in that context, and a worthless one in any other...
ziq wrote (edited )
You attending meetings with your fellow politburo wannabes does not = "effective action for change" you giant poser.
If one of you actually did direct action, you'd castigate and purge them for taking action without approval from the cult's central committee
Rat wrote
What're you gonna do, stop us from doing nothing? Force us to do something? 🤔 We agree on neither the means nor the ends. No wonder, because I still remember post-Occupy Alinsky being the realest, hottest shit -- for conservatives and liberals alike.