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subrosa wrote

sounds like time well spent; you didn't miss out on much around here

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ziq OP wrote

glad that editor made an account to respond to my post from last week

i think the whole noble savage thing is a good topic for an essay considering how often it's used for erasure

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subrosa wrote

Could make for a solid essay. Though it's probably not always a good idea to respond to whatever shit the "anarchist movement" throws us. Like, in responding with an essay you might help establish it as a topic on its own, in a way 'dignifying' it with a response. Link it a couple times and people will ask r/anarchy101 again and again to reaffirm how super useful and effective noble savage is as a primmie deterrent, threads taken as opportunities to shit on anti-civs.

I was playing with the idea of re-mapping anarchism with the old terms: communism, syndicalism, individualism, etc., etc. in a way that would challenge those who identify with those terms. Find and highlight the most radical expressions of each, the figures who attacked now well-established dividing lines and overlaps that we take for granted. (Galleani, Bonanno and Landstreicher are my fave communists.) It's a massive task, but could be fun to write that thing. Some time.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

i kinda just like pointing out that communists completely embody the noble savage fallacy (and might have even invented it with Marx/Engels' primitive communism and later Kropotkin's studies of ant colonies and the suggestion that mutual aid is in the nature of everyone and everything) so it doesn't make any sense for them to mock their own long-held belief that humans (or workers as they prefer to call us), are inherently good and prone to mutual aid / communism

the whole noble savage thing is an obvious liberal smear to promote capitalistic colonizing exploitation-driven lifestyles over low-impact communal ones, so when ancoms use it, they're really just cutting off their nose to spite their face

It's a massive task, but could be fun to write that thing. Some time.

yeah that would be a fascinating thing to explore

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subrosa wrote

Yeah, it's a good angle for sure. Elegant. Fertile ground. I would probably get lost in exploration, trying to figure out where and how the noble savage is used, to make sure I considered every possible angle. Same with Marx and Kropotkin, see where a massive leap of faith in the "human race" is the basis for a large chunk of their ideas.

You're probably shooting a lot faster, but I'll DM you in case I run into into something worth including.

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ziq OP wrote

took the pictures at night so not the best quality

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__0 wrote

Inspo tbh

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