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Reply to comment by Fool in The Question of Belief in Nihilism by d4rk

On your first point, I guess a negation of the negation would be to socially construct nothing into something and use that to justify whatever acts that you want to do. It is neither Dionysian, since it is bound by an internally consistent although rudimentary, moral code. Nor is it Apollonian, since it (being the something from nothing) can impress its will on others. But this could no longer be a form of Nihilism since Zarathustra preaches against this type of old order of man.

I'd like to thank you for that second point for leading me down the rabbithole of Czechoslovak philosophy. It was definitely a good read considering that they were on the correct side of history.

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Fool wrote

I guess a negation of the negation would be to socially construct nothing into something and use that to justify whatever acts that you want to do.

It's not what I was alluding to, but what you described has quite a number of historical examples... So it appears it's the more common way to understand such a point, so I'll leave it at that.

I also cut out mention of a certain omnipresent construct built upon "Everything", which relates to what you mentioned.

But this could no longer be a form of Nihilism since Zarathustra preaches against this type of old order of man.

On the one hand it's like a cop out (with heavy colonialist basis) excluding ideas because they're outside the academic school of Nihilism, but I suppose that it can make sense to keep the discussion of Nihilism to things actually called Nihilism, and not things that are similar but not actually called that thing.

were on the correct side of history.

The side that has not been expunged and forgotten, and as such can be considered history?

Or those that appear to have not been falsified?

...Don't feel like you need to respond to that... Using good or correct as adjectives just creates too many questions....

...I wonder if there's a way I could actually let myself go full stream of consciousness on this sort of topic... Actually I'd probably quickly run into the age old, how does one describe non-concepts without using concepts?

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