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1998822 wrote

Reply to comment by ramone in Just Read My Letter by MarxWasTheMessiah

Direct democracy and so-called 'consensus democracy,' suffers from the same problems as all 'democratic systems,' sadly. It has corruption built into it's backbone.

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ramone wrote (edited )

Only it seems least corruptible of all governmental systems, especially if you start from scratch.

Edit: I don't really get what this forum is supposed to be about

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1998822 wrote (edited )

I'm not sure if 'least corruptible,' is how I want to think. History is full of people taking the 'lesser evil,' and look where we are right now... It's pretty bleak imo. All forms of mass social organization are doomed from the very start, where do we go from there?

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ramone wrote

They aren't the same thing. The least corruptible system is completely capable of being evil or not, it's a matter of the popular opinion. Not popular opinion about who gets to be a figure head, but actual issues that have to get dealt with, of which there are an overabundance. It should be very decentralized, and no individual should have more power than others. What other option is there if we don't want the world to fall into decay?

I simply don't agree that all forms of social organization are doomed, people just have to get over it when popular opinion is different from their own.

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ramone wrote

Nothing is perfect. You can't fix democracy. I don't see the last two as contradictory. Power comes from influence, if you have the same amount of influence as everybody else you are just as powerful.

You shouldn't have to make people understand your trans identity, just make a case for protection against violence. Words aren't violence, if you get shit on verbally it's probably because you haven't stated your case clearly enough. I judge individuals on their own merits, I don't lump every trans person together and dislike all of them, but I have met some trans people I dislike personally, that doesn't make me transphobic, but to their eyes it might.

The world is endangered, there have to be rules for how to extract it's resources, otherwise mother nature will exact vengeance on everyone and everything in it before it can reach harmony again.

I can only imagine any alternative you would espouse as having a pretty bleak outcome in the real world. No one gets hurt unless they hurt someone else? Ugh, I'm not religious but I can appreciate truth when I hear it, so here goes, 'an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind'.

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ramone wrote

This is fucking brilliant. Go downvote everything I've ever said! Your disapproval means nothing to me.

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ramone wrote

I have been transphobic before, it was only natural. I have spoken with trans people who have made their points well, and I don't discourage it any more. There are still people who I think are stupid who happen to be trans, but that's true of every denomination of people you can possibly think of.

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ramone wrote

People are peices of shit. A person can reason for themselves, and a collective will turn out it's own shitty reasoning for whatever benefits them. Better to make benefiting off of being a shitty person harder.

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ramone wrote (edited )

idk Switzerland seems like it'd be a pretty tight place to live

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CaptainACAB wrote (edited )

Power comes from influence, if you have the same amount of influence as everybody else you are just as powerful.

Except that's not how democracy or power work at all. Like you said, power comes from influence; if someone can influence more than one person, they are more powerful by your own admission.

Words aren't violence, if you get shit on verbally it's probably because you haven't stated your case clearly enough.

Oh my god, are you actually doing this?

I judge individuals on their own merit

"I don't see color."

The world is endangered, there have to be rules for how to extract it's resources

The people extracting resources at the rate they are now either make the rules or ignore them. Rules are worth nothing.

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ramone wrote

It's on you to make your own opinions.

People getting rich off extracting resources is the problem.

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arj wrote

The world is endangered, there have to be rules for how to extract it's resources, otherwise mother nature will exact vengeance on everyone and everything in it before it can reach harmony again.

Sounds like religious extremism.

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ramone wrote

No it doesn't. It's objective reasoning. I don't care about any one else's truth, I have eyes.

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ramone wrote

It actually doesn't take that long to see nature turn against an ideology. Water levels are rising, visibly. The willfully blind have turned opinion against the fact that human "progress" isn't sustainable. This will be obvious to everyone within the next 10 years.

WTF is this place? No one has any ideas besides "oppression is bad, so let's be hateful to anyone who doesn't conform to our ideologies.”

The fact is: human population is capable of destroying nature, and they will because it is easier than living with the truth. Because people are selfish.

Not sure I care to hear anyone's opinions on climate here, because you are all too focused on issues that affect you in your lifetime. Future generations will have true disdain for people that focus on social issues, while the future is left out to dry, literally.

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DarkArmiIIary wrote

The fact is: human population is capable of destroying nature, and they will because it is easier than living with the truth. Because people are selfish.

Wtf does it even mean lol

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Splinglebot wrote

social issues and ecological issues aren't separable lol, it's not a case of focusing on one over the other, it's about recognizing that it's all part of the same struggle

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