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Dumai wrote

listen what ziq did was wrong and i accept they misled us into blaming entirely the wrong people for conflicts that were mostly down to their own behaviour but that doesn't magically make your racist jokes okay

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Dumai wrote (edited )

hmm

jokes portraying tribal societies as socially degenerate, morally regressive, and generally backwards when left without the civilising influence of technology? nah no colonial implications there i have my bullshit historical stereotypes of ancient hunter-gatherers so im in the clear

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____deleted____ wrote

To be fair, there's still the obvious example of PNG where there's rampant rape, murder, and other such things depending on which tribe you look at. Some tribes clearly are backwards, others are not.

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ConnieCommie wrote

okes portraying tribal societies as socially degenerate, morally regressive, and generally backwards

i mean; that's literally anprimism, hun.

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Dumai wrote

i'm not denying anprims have a nasty habit of objectifying non-urban societies but a) ziq never said anything like that in my experience and b) that still ain't a pass to exploit the same racist stereotypes for your banal jokes

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ConnieCommie wrote

a. any anprim warrents mockage as somebody who, being trans and unnatural, would be thrown to the bears or something

b. the joke is anprims are cavemen. it's not that hard, prot.

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Dumai wrote (edited )

a. the assumption that transgender identities are unnatural is not a feature of any anti-civ anarchist ideology to my knowledge, especially when these assumptions only make sense if you take modern gender categories for granted as natural; any anarchist worth their salt doesn't do this, especially not any anarchist who is a skeptic of the categories of modernity, which they should be if they are anti-civ (plus the division between the natural and unnatural is one of modernism's favourites).

so maybe there are some primmies who pull that shit but if they do they are failing their own basic theory. anyway ziq ain't even an anprim nor am i so im not sure what your point is

b. the anachronistic archetype of the caveman is a product of modern colonialist ideology and basically functioned as an excuse to "civilise" contemporaneous tribal societies, which you may notice just so happened to be people of colour! how do you not know this, you are a leftist you are meant to know this, please do not lazily spew this shit all over left-wing sites because you apparently have no idea what you're fucking around with

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ConnieCommie wrote

a. your dick small; and i don't see how screaming about civilization being corrupt and evil makes ziq not an anprim

b. perhaps.jpg

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Dumai wrote

criticising civilisation as a cultural construct and a reification is pretty essential for radical politics no matter who you are, whether or not you fetishise this utopian image of a "wild society" as many anprims do

anyway if your response to being called out for parroting colonial ideology is dumb memes then there's really nothing else i can say lol

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ConnieCommie wrote

criticising civilisation as a cultural construct

there is nothing about urban life incompatable with socialism

and memes are an easy way for me to say i'll think about it

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Dumai wrote

there is nothing about urban life incompatable with socialism

mayhaps not but socialism is compatible with a lot of horrid shit i don't want to be involved with and urban life as we know it is crushingly oppressive, read illich

please do think about it b/c if you galavant around left spaces using "tribal" as an insult you will not make any friends