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ziq wrote

clouds biggest talent is convincing everyone she's blameless and a victim while meticulously orchestrating non stop chaos to turn her fans against her enemies, which means anyone who doesn't lavish her with nonstop praise

i kno her, we used to talk for hours everyday until i got sick of what she was doing to the site and its users and made the mistake of trying to tell her to stop

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RadicalConstructivist wrote (edited )

People can make up their own mind as to whether or not they defend or support her. I can't say I understand how you got to the conclusion that everything has to be about manipulation.

I don't want to get into an argument about events that happened over a year ago but I believe there's a lot missing from this account of things. There are multiple sides to this. I can elaborate if you or anyone else is willing to listen but I'd rather not flood the site with more arguments about this.

That said, she did make some mistakes in the past. She learnt from them. As did you. Can we all move on?

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